I don’t mind his reasoning here outside of the issue of humans forget shit all the time. I don’t trust that we will be able to, in the future, keep track and either maintain it’s orbit or de-orbit it safety so it doesn’t harm anyone or anything down here on the ground. Like, I don’t fully buy into civilization fully collapsing but I just don’t know what the future holds for us and what we could do to ourselves 100 years from now. I think it’s still safer and better just to de-orbit it when we were meaning to and save the future headaches.
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NASA considered this option and it will lead to the station falling apart anyway and creating a pile of orbital debris in orbit that will take a century to clean up…
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It’s not unusual to have fun with anyone
But when I see you hanging about with anyone
It’s not unusual to see me cry, I wanna die
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Not to mention future spacewalk opportunities by enthusiasts, like diving shipwrecks.
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That’s an incredibly irresponsible idea. If we just push it up into a higher orbit, it means that we won’t know where it will ultimately land, once the orbit eventually decays. The ISS is over 100 meters long and weighs over 400,000 kilograms. And while it’s not likely to make landfall intact after de-orbiting, that doesn’t mean it can’t cause problems while it’s falling.
The justifications for doing so are also irrationally optimistic conjecture. The’s no economical case for asteroid mining, as the minerals which can be found on asteroids can all be obtained for cheaper on Earth, and if the presumption is that the material is going to re-used on an orbital or interplanetary vessel, then you’re going to have to shove even **MORE** material into orbit to build it with.
Harisdrop on
One day there will be an Alien monster waiting to gobble astronauts up if it way up there
Mactonex on
Why not just boost it out into deep space. Burning all this space junk in the atmosphere is a serious pollution event.
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Seasoned and well educated astronaut shares an extensively reasoned take likely backed by years of direct experience and observation.
This is the link to the summary of the NASA analysis considering the various ISS options. The greater risk of debris collision at higher altitude seems to be NASA’s main concern with boosting the ISS to the “100 year” orbit.
Should be costed at the very least. It seems a good idea but more information is needed. Whose responsibility is it to maintain the new orbit, who will (if still viable) man it, and who gets the materials.
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Stinky poop station needs to be scrapped. We can afford to rebuild a new station.
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I think soon, all space endeavors will only be possible by private companies. The way the government is run only digresses Nasa’s ability to progress. Once the ISS is down it’ll feel like we’ve gone backwards. Unless starship makes significant progress by then.
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I think soon, all space endeavors will only be possible by private companies. The way the government is run only digresses Nasa’s ability to progress. Once the ISS is down it’ll feel like we’ve gone backwards. Unless starship makes significant progress by then.
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I don’t mind his reasoning here outside of the issue of humans forget shit all the time. I don’t trust that we will be able to, in the future, keep track and either maintain it’s orbit or de-orbit it safety so it doesn’t harm anyone or anything down here on the ground. Like, I don’t fully buy into civilization fully collapsing but I just don’t know what the future holds for us and what we could do to ourselves 100 years from now. I think it’s still safer and better just to de-orbit it when we were meaning to and save the future headaches.
NASA considered this option and it will lead to the station falling apart anyway and creating a pile of orbital debris in orbit that will take a century to clean up…
It’s not unusual to have fun with anyone
But when I see you hanging about with anyone
It’s not unusual to see me cry, I wanna die
Not to mention future spacewalk opportunities by enthusiasts, like diving shipwrecks.
That’s an incredibly irresponsible idea. If we just push it up into a higher orbit, it means that we won’t know where it will ultimately land, once the orbit eventually decays. The ISS is over 100 meters long and weighs over 400,000 kilograms. And while it’s not likely to make landfall intact after de-orbiting, that doesn’t mean it can’t cause problems while it’s falling.
The justifications for doing so are also irrationally optimistic conjecture. The’s no economical case for asteroid mining, as the minerals which can be found on asteroids can all be obtained for cheaper on Earth, and if the presumption is that the material is going to re-used on an orbital or interplanetary vessel, then you’re going to have to shove even **MORE** material into orbit to build it with.
One day there will be an Alien monster waiting to gobble astronauts up if it way up there
Why not just boost it out into deep space. Burning all this space junk in the atmosphere is a serious pollution event.
Seasoned and well educated astronaut shares an extensively reasoned take likely backed by years of direct experience and observation.
Cheeto dust adorned Redditors Fingers: “AHHCKSHUALLY”
This is the link to the summary of the NASA analysis considering the various ISS options. The greater risk of debris collision at higher altitude seems to be NASA’s main concern with boosting the ISS to the “100 year” orbit.
https://www.nasa.gov/wp-content/uploads/2024/06/iss-deorbit-analysis-summary.pdf
Should be costed at the very least. It seems a good idea but more information is needed. Whose responsibility is it to maintain the new orbit, who will (if still viable) man it, and who gets the materials.
Stinky poop station needs to be scrapped. We can afford to rebuild a new station.
I think soon, all space endeavors will only be possible by private companies. The way the government is run only digresses Nasa’s ability to progress. Once the ISS is down it’ll feel like we’ve gone backwards. Unless starship makes significant progress by then.
I think soon, all space endeavors will only be possible by private companies. The way the government is run only digresses Nasa’s ability to progress. Once the ISS is down it’ll feel like we’ve gone backwards. Unless starship makes significant progress by then.