It feels like watching a car crash in slow motion, but from the inside of the car.
pafagaukurinn on
An interesting visualization would be a year-by-year video for a significant period, at least a century (if such data exists).
raitchev on
So, what do we do?
turpaaboden on
The countries with the highest fertility rates are the countries with the lowest ability to take care of themselves.
One_Pick_5920 on
I wonder if that will help in the fight against climate change or if we’ll be be both facing a difficult climate while struggling to keep our economic and social structures together (especially pensions and healthcare).
One_Discipline_6276 on
Europe is gonna be in a very rough place in a few generations
NLwino on
These groupings are not very useful.
1.0 is devastating, so is 4.0. Meanwhile around 1.9 is great.
xSarlessa on
Does it mean that the global fertility droped due to modern agriculture ? Do you have strong source on that effect ?
Skoofout on
You guys should visit sprawling slums of Almaty to get clear picture if high fertility rates. While tourist places in the city and around are beautiful, population is soaring at ~2.5mln while initial soviet infrastructure was built to withstand approximately 750k people. Smog is awful.
HeadlineBasher on
Kazakhstan is a European country?
Affectionate_Cat293 on
This map is really bad. Replacement rate is 2.1, not 2.0. In other words, fertility rate of 2.0 will still lead to a decrease in population. 2.1 should have been the threshold.
“Replacement level fertility is the level of fertility at which a population exactly replaces itself from one generation to the next. In developed countries, replacement level fertility can be taken as requiring an average of 2.1 children per woman.”
If I had know what the world would be like today I wouldn’t have brought children into it.
Roubbes on
Ifispeak.mourinho
Nightshade_NL on
Africa certainly has their priorities straight…..
CrazyFuehrer on
We just need to cure ageing, that would fix demography
BigPhilip on
Kazakhstan is an European country even if it is mostly in Asia.
I’ll take note.
TheJiral on
The world is overpopulated and those who think that eternal population growth is an option are rooting either for famine, epidemies, war or all of those. That is why that map isn’t showing critical information. Rapid depopulation is equally bad but a birth rate slightly below 2 is the optimal number. To my knowledge Ireland, France anf Sweden are pretty much there.
MrPrevedmedved on
Good fertility to you all
Anyusername7294 on
Why is it bad?
ghostoftomjoad69 on
Well, thats y i like to say kazakhstan is the greatest country in the world
GreenOrkGirl on
I don’t think thay any insentives to boost fertility would work. The overall decline of population seems unevitable unless there’s some black swan event coming. The right way iseems to be a complete overhaul of the pension / social benefit systems until it is not too late.
Main_Goon1 on
We Europeans should start making babies
northern_lout on
This also why they’re next on the Kremlin’s chopping block.
Don’t let them.
Orevahaibopoqa on
Seems odd. Even maybe we have higher than Western Europe. I don’t think we would have much gap compared to our neighbours
Suspicious-Neat-5954 on
In what universe is kazakhstan european ? Where does europe end ?Korea?Japan?
Silver_Jeweler6465 on
The solution?
Progressive income tax based on number of children (while still maried to not encourage mass single motherhood and deadbeats) rather than based on income levels.
Basically single people -> highest rate.
Married couples with 4 children -> 0 income tax (for both parents) for as long as the marriage lasts.
The rates drop incrementally by getting married and then per child.
There, this would fix the fertility crisis and still not encourage people to have children “for money”, because they still have to work to benefit from income tax reductions.
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It feels like watching a car crash in slow motion, but from the inside of the car.
An interesting visualization would be a year-by-year video for a significant period, at least a century (if such data exists).
So, what do we do?
The countries with the highest fertility rates are the countries with the lowest ability to take care of themselves.
I wonder if that will help in the fight against climate change or if we’ll be be both facing a difficult climate while struggling to keep our economic and social structures together (especially pensions and healthcare).
Europe is gonna be in a very rough place in a few generations
These groupings are not very useful.
1.0 is devastating, so is 4.0. Meanwhile around 1.9 is great.
Does it mean that the global fertility droped due to modern agriculture ? Do you have strong source on that effect ?
You guys should visit sprawling slums of Almaty to get clear picture if high fertility rates. While tourist places in the city and around are beautiful, population is soaring at ~2.5mln while initial soviet infrastructure was built to withstand approximately 750k people. Smog is awful.
Kazakhstan is a European country?
This map is really bad. Replacement rate is 2.1, not 2.0. In other words, fertility rate of 2.0 will still lead to a decrease in population. 2.1 should have been the threshold.
“Replacement level fertility is the level of fertility at which a population exactly replaces itself from one generation to the next. In developed countries, replacement level fertility can be taken as requiring an average of 2.1 children per woman.”
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/7834459/
If I had know what the world would be like today I wouldn’t have brought children into it.
Ifispeak.mourinho
Africa certainly has their priorities straight…..
We just need to cure ageing, that would fix demography
Kazakhstan is an European country even if it is mostly in Asia.
I’ll take note.
The world is overpopulated and those who think that eternal population growth is an option are rooting either for famine, epidemies, war or all of those. That is why that map isn’t showing critical information. Rapid depopulation is equally bad but a birth rate slightly below 2 is the optimal number. To my knowledge Ireland, France anf Sweden are pretty much there.
Good fertility to you all
Why is it bad?
Well, thats y i like to say kazakhstan is the greatest country in the world
I don’t think thay any insentives to boost fertility would work. The overall decline of population seems unevitable unless there’s some black swan event coming. The right way iseems to be a complete overhaul of the pension / social benefit systems until it is not too late.
We Europeans should start making babies
This also why they’re next on the Kremlin’s chopping block.
Don’t let them.
Seems odd. Even maybe we have higher than Western Europe. I don’t think we would have much gap compared to our neighbours
In what universe is kazakhstan european ? Where does europe end ?Korea?Japan?
The solution?
Progressive income tax based on number of children (while still maried to not encourage mass single motherhood and deadbeats) rather than based on income levels.
Basically single people -> highest rate.
Married couples with 4 children -> 0 income tax (for both parents) for as long as the marriage lasts.
The rates drop incrementally by getting married and then per child.
There, this would fix the fertility crisis and still not encourage people to have children “for money”, because they still have to work to benefit from income tax reductions.
Neither of those countries are European but ok
*”Why aren’t the [reproductive hormones-disrupting micro-plastic](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9885170/) ridden, [can’t afford a home](https://www.statista.com/statistics/240991/average-sales-prices-of-new-homes-sold-in-the-us/), [wage depressed](https://www.epi.org/publication/charting-wage-stagnation/) citizens having children”* they ponder.
🤔
Robots and development in AI came just in time. It almost feels like a natural continuation of evolution
Awful range per color. It would be much more useful to see a map of Europe with color gradients for fertility 1.0-2.0 with 0.2 increments.
European hahaha