It’s one thing to beg for yourself and be cordial about it. I guess it’s an open secret wich group is being targeted here and I honestly am for it.
I don’t care if your way of life is different. Organised begging and all the things around it have no place here.
alsbos1 on
“this ban then became unenforceable following a ruling by the Strasbourg-based European Court of Human Rights (ECHR) in 2021”. Sound like a good reason to dump the relationship with the echr. If that crazy ruling on ‘the hot summer violated human rights” wasn’t enough.
jrsowa on
Begging as temporary solution -> yes,
Begging as permanent full-time activity -> absolutely no.
However there is group of people travelling between cities to not be familiarized amongst citizens.
ketsa3 on
I remember the blessed times, not so long ago when it was totally verboten to beg in Geneva.
I remember the blessed time when cops would seize any money made by begging.
I pray it comes back.
Emotional_Manager_87 on
Does “disloyal and misleading” include the “refugees” who were Syrian a few years ago that are now magically Ukrainian and speak neither language? Glad parliament can agree that this group of conmen (and women…) need some legal reprimand…
butcherHS on
Switzerland has a very good social system so that absolutely nobody has to beg. So people who are out on the streets begging anyway are doing so for dishonest reasons, such as drug use. We have to help these people and part of this help consists of not offering opportunities to promote such activities. This may be incomprehensible to these people, but we as a society are responsible for ensuring that these people do not fall even lower. And that is precisely why these restrictions are needed.
MacBareth on
Oh my god… people can just ignore them like they ignore every other societal issue that doens’t affect them.
“I f*cking HATE seeing poor people in MY streets” go find some empathy…
DeeezNutszs on
If people keep allowing stuff that already destroyed many cities I wonder what will happen… Real rocket science stuff
Individual-Cat4912 on
My opinion may be unpopular, BUT:
-> street performers should ask for permission from the city, full stop. The city council approves place/time. Performers collect all the donation
-> everybody else should address social services for help. No street begging allowed.
Additional comment:
I was very disturbed when I saw a LATAM family performing in Zug. Sometimes they play music near Zug Bahnhof… with their kids!!!! Kids were like 10-12 y.o., singing while two adults (mom and dad??) were playing musical instruments!
Not sure how this was allowed. Isn’t this underage labor? I mean, kids were walking around with hats jn their hands, asking for money???
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It’s one thing to beg for yourself and be cordial about it. I guess it’s an open secret wich group is being targeted here and I honestly am for it.
I don’t care if your way of life is different. Organised begging and all the things around it have no place here.
“this ban then became unenforceable following a ruling by the Strasbourg-based European Court of Human Rights (ECHR) in 2021”. Sound like a good reason to dump the relationship with the echr. If that crazy ruling on ‘the hot summer violated human rights” wasn’t enough.
Begging as temporary solution -> yes,
Begging as permanent full-time activity -> absolutely no.
However there is group of people travelling between cities to not be familiarized amongst citizens.
I remember the blessed times, not so long ago when it was totally verboten to beg in Geneva.
I remember the blessed time when cops would seize any money made by begging.
I pray it comes back.
Does “disloyal and misleading” include the “refugees” who were Syrian a few years ago that are now magically Ukrainian and speak neither language? Glad parliament can agree that this group of conmen (and women…) need some legal reprimand…
Switzerland has a very good social system so that absolutely nobody has to beg. So people who are out on the streets begging anyway are doing so for dishonest reasons, such as drug use. We have to help these people and part of this help consists of not offering opportunities to promote such activities. This may be incomprehensible to these people, but we as a society are responsible for ensuring that these people do not fall even lower. And that is precisely why these restrictions are needed.
Oh my god… people can just ignore them like they ignore every other societal issue that doens’t affect them.
“I f*cking HATE seeing poor people in MY streets” go find some empathy…
If people keep allowing stuff that already destroyed many cities I wonder what will happen… Real rocket science stuff
My opinion may be unpopular, BUT:
-> street performers should ask for permission from the city, full stop. The city council approves place/time. Performers collect all the donation
-> everybody else should address social services for help. No street begging allowed.
Additional comment:
I was very disturbed when I saw a LATAM family performing in Zug. Sometimes they play music near Zug Bahnhof… with their kids!!!! Kids were like 10-12 y.o., singing while two adults (mom and dad??) were playing musical instruments!
Not sure how this was allowed. Isn’t this underage labor? I mean, kids were walking around with hats jn their hands, asking for money???