There’s a danger that the US supreme court, not voters, picks the next president

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2024/sep/17/us-supreme-court-republican-judges-next-president?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Other

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  1. Reviews-From-Me on

    This current packed Supreme Court majority is disinterested in the rule of law or Constitution, all they care about is advancing their party’s agenda.

  2. I feel, if the Supreme court decides specifically this election, there WILL actually be violence, and people WILL be killed….not a small number, either.

  3. NissanAltimaWarrior on

    In that case, the sitting President will pick the next POTUS.

    If the Supreme Court disagrees, let them enforce their decision on their own.

  4. Vote, bring a friend, and make it a clear enough Harris win that they have no say. Just like in 2020, Trump can complain as much as he wants, but once the results were tallied there was no question who would be sworn in.

  5. Sure_Garbage_2119 on

    i really hope for american voters, that next big election will be for popular vote. one citizen = one elector = one vote. the one who get´s more votes, wins.

  6. I_who_have_no_need on

    If anyone engages in conspiracy to overturn an election the President has authority under the insurrection act and the Supreme Court Justices are not beyond the law.

  7. This is the best tl;dr I could make, [original](https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2024/sep/17/us-supreme-court-republican-judges-next-president?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Other) reduced by 87%. (I’m a bot)
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    > Before anyone knows the results, Republicans appeal to the US supreme court using the "Independent state legislature" theory, insisting that the state court overstepped its bounds and the late votes not be counted.

    > The progressive majority on the state supreme court attempts to establish a new location, but Republicans ask the US supreme court to shut it down.

    > There are dozens of scenarios where Trump's endgame not only pushes a contested election into the courts, but ensures that it ends up before one court in particular: a US supreme court packed with a conservative supermajority that includes three lawyers who cut their teeth working on Bush v Gore, one whose wife colluded with Stop the Steal activists to overturn the 2020 results, and another whose spouse flew the insurrectionist flag outside their home.

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  8. your_comments_say on

    Oath of Enlistment: I, _____, do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign AND domestic

  9. I assumed this is the plan. Elites take over the judiciary and then they just make things the way they want.

    Just like Trumps bff Victor Orban.

  10. People don’t vote for president anyway; electors do. At this point, would it surprise anyone that the corrupt ass Supreme Court would pull something like this?

  11. That’s my prediction. Why do you think Shitler is saying “we have the votes” It’s not the voting public it’s the corrupt Supreme Court. The Democrats need a massive trifecta win to make it nearly impossible for the Supreme Courts to install a fascist dictatorship that will destroy democracy in America

  12. Backpack_Walker on

    If that happens, and there isn’t a legit reason to, then democracy will officially be dead in this country. That’s not a hyperbole.

  13. Things like this remind me that democracy is really, really hard. That wasn’t emphasized enough in school. It’s not the natural state of humanity or anything, it’s a carefully constructed artificial thing that some part of our deepest brains reject. If your brain loses the fight against that rejection you become a MAGA and vote for the person who promises that you’ll never have to worry about other people getting their way again.

  14. Recusing a judge from a trial they have a clear bias in, such as the president that appointed you, should be mandatory and written into law, not a gentleman’s agreement.

  15. If they want the rest of the country to burn their institution to the ground alongside the president they selected, then they are welcome to try.

  16. I think every scenario is in play. MAGA will not go quietly into the good night. This will be our greatest constitutional test since the South’s secession from the Union.

  17. I’m not getting complacent, nor am I trying to make everyone else. However, there’s NO WAY the race is as close as the media is projecting everywhere. And I mean EVERYWHERE. Websites posting polls here, any news channel etc etc. A close race is a more watchable race.

    For the first few weeks of Harris’ campaign announcement and Biden’s dropout, sure they edged towards and made it a close election as she grew in endorsement and popularity. I can’t believe that’s where we are now. There’s still work to do for sure, but I believe the fruition of that work and all the negativity from the weirdos on the other team are pushing an undeniable Harris/Walz victory.

    I’m not saying there isn’t any legs to this theory, but I highly doubt SCOTUS will have to get involved beyond the ballot box when they place their own votes.

    [Vote.org](http://Vote.org)

  18. StandAloneC0mplex on

    We need to be prepared to burn this mother down if they try. Our parent’s generation fucked up when they let Bush V Gore happen.

  19. glass_fully_50-50 on

    Dear President Biden,

    You have done a great job this far. Don’t ruin it by not doing the next bit – put some sense into the right wing nuts on the supreme court!

    Thank you

    A very concerned Citizen.

    p.s. I know its not easy, but I know you will figure out something!

  20. Meinmyownhead502 on

    Harris would fight however. Trump is trying to make it so if he loses the Supreme Court says no. Harris is aware and making sure steps are in place to prevent

  21. SCOTUS should know that they will be held legally accountable if they try to anoint a clear losing candidate as President and also that it won’t work and the weight of the executive branch will fall on them. A coup is a coup. Regardless of whether they want to try and give it a veneer of legality.

    If the SCOTUS does try and pick the president it will be the end of their reign either way. If they try and fail they will be held accountable and face real and lasting repercussions. If they try and are successful, the dictator they just picked will dispatch of them and their power in short order.

  22. Competitive_Mind_829 on

    It be the last decision made by the court as it would lead to the end of the United States and I have a feeling John Robert’s would quickly head to his new home in Russia.

  23. “You won’t even need to vote in the next election”

    They’re telling us exactly what they’re planning.

  24. There should be more focus on this story.

    50% of the country had a sign of relief when Biden stepped down and Kamala came into the picture.

    However, it’s the SCOTUS that we need to be worried about. Even if we vote for Kamala, SCOTUS can step in and change the victory.

    Still go out and vote, but also advocate for change when it comes to the SCOTUS.

  25. I would not be surprised. A certain party lost their absolute shit when a person of color became president and will do absolutely anything to prevent a second time. Absolutely anything.

  26. Expert_Scarcity4139 on

    Which is why Biden needs to fix this court issue while they already gave him immunity for official acts while he can

  27. I fucking hate rhetoric like this. Not because it isn’t true, it is. No, I hate it because it puts far more emphasis on the worst case scenario, than on the things that we, as individuals, *must* be doing in order to prevent that worst case scenario from happening: we have to vote our asses off and defeat Trump by a wide enough margin that SCOTUS can’t touch it. Talk to your friends, donate, not just to the Harris campaign, but to the Democrats running in your state for smaller positions. Volunteer, slap a sticker on your car, we have to let everyone know that Harris is the better candidate because the vast majority of people voting for Trump are only doing so because they “don’t pay attention to politics” and “have always voted Republican”. It’s not just the undecided voters we need to reach, it’s the uninterested voters, the voters who don’t care about politics. We have to make them care!

    The danger of defeatist/worst case scenario rhetoric is that it can kill hope. If people feel hopeless, if they believe that their vote doesn’t count because SCOTUS is just going to fuck it up anyways, why should they bother going to the ballots? Fear-mongering is a tool of the GOP, and hope is a far more powerful motivator. A SCOTUS takeover is NOT inevitable! We can fight back!