When people wonder what the cost of drugs and alcohol is on society, this is a pretty strong indicator.
masterblaster0 on
With 1 woman being killed by an abusive partner or ex-partner every 5 days (on average) one has to wonder why is there so much abuse occurring and what can be done about it.
Looking after women and children fleeing situations is absolutely right but it doesn’t fix the root of the problem. What is wrong with so many men behaving this way?, there is some seriously fucked up insecurity amongst those who feel they need to control their partner to force them to stick around, and that really needs to be addressed.
puffinus-puffinus on
I’m not sure why the entirety of Scotland has been lumped together in that graphic, but Wales hasn’t. Seems a bit strange to me.
Brilliant-Big-336 on
Am I misreading this or have they not adjusted by population? I’m not trying to argue against the main thrust but it seems a bit misleading if it is only the total number regardless of population.
I’d also like to see breakdowns by age, income and ethnicity. Does anybody know if that is available?
DoomSluggy on
That map is Terrible. Makes it look like London and scotland are really bad.Â
But the map doesn’t account for the population of the areas, so of course areas with more people look bad.Â
parkway_parkway on
“As a result, this publication and Refuge have launched the Brick by Brick campaign to raise £300,000 to build a safe home for women to escape their abusive partners.”
This just shows how the housing famine is part of the problem. That 300k would be lucky to get a 3 bed semi.
One of the reasons people get stuck in abusive situations is the cost and difficulty of trying to get away and setup another life.
If we cut rent in half it would help people live independently.
test_test_1_2_3 on
Map only shows raw number of cases without considering population. So completely fucking useless as a graphic because it gives no indication of where rates of domestic abuse are higher.
Incontinentiabutts on
This is gonna trend on r/scotland
Some idiot put this together like Scotland is full of people who are a meme of a 1930s dock worker that goes to the pub after work to knock back 8 pints and then beats their wife up before going to bed and doing it all over again the next day.
StagnantMonk on
Used to work for a charity getting toys to kids in shelters. The numbers of kids I was sending toys too of all ages what shocked me. Wasn’t just A or 2 a week it was 40boxes to secret refuges and of course all evidence of their address after was destroyed.
Arcon1337 on
This is such a rubbish map and lacks crucial nuance.
TheMinceKid on
Can’t open it? Does it mention female on male violence? This issue needs more press coverage.
Downvoted by apologists for female on male violence. How stupid and ignorant you are
Flimsy-sam on
Mess of an article that conflates two completely different measures of domestic abuse. Police recorded DA has been increasing, whilst Crime Survey of England and Wales data show long term decreases over the past 10 years. CSEW is a much better estimate of crime rates for most offending, but most reliable for DA over police data.
I wonder why British men have suddenly and randomly become twice as violent.
There definitely couldn’t be any other possible explanations. Definitely not. Just British men suddenly becoming savages. Guess it must be Tate. I cannot possibly fathom another reason.
peakedtooearly on
Abysmal map – possibly done deliberately as it’s so easy and obvious what the mistake is.
SignificanceCool3747 on
This shows a direct correlation between there being more people leading to more domestic violence cases. Incredible research
CriticalHits642 on
More violence happening in areas of higher population. Shock
MoMxPhotos on
More men more violence, same old same old, but just to keep it fair, wouldn’t surprise me if it was rising for the females as well.
Fuck_your_future_ on
All the Chelsea fans could explain why London is so dark. 🙃
RizzoTheSmall on
Not only is the map data cherry picked by their own admission:
> Statistics from Devon and Cornwall are from April 2021 to March 2022, and Northern Ireland from April 2023 to March 2024. All other statistics are year ending March 2023.
But also the rates are in total for the area, not per-capita, so it’s pretty much just a population heat map.
Turns out the whole of Scotland has more domestic crimes reported than Somerset. Go figure.
Human-Salamander-847 on
Wow, there is a lot of domestic violence in the Scottish mountains.
There’s a lot to take away from it but they could have easily chosen to headline the article “Domestic Abuse Has Decreased Over the Past Decade”, but of course, it isn’t as attractive.
>There has been a gradual decrease in domestic abuse over the last 10 years. The CSEW for YE March 2024 estimated that 5.4% of people aged 16 to 59 years experienced domestic abuse in the last year compared with 6.5% in YE March 2014.
Complex-Biscotti3601 on
Half a million men also affected, would ofcourse not get a mention, and needs to be brushed aside, since women are being affected more
Kind-Soil-6259 on
The map is a nonsense. DV is absolutely prolific across income bands, regions and ethnicities. Anybody who has worked with children and families is aware of this. We have a huge problem as a society being unwilling to face up to this. And while alcohol can make it worse, it is not the primary driver. When I got the courage to leave my ex husband, I discovered that many of our friends knew, or at least suspected. Yet he kept the friends. It is unpleasant, uncomfortable and morally challenging, so most people look the other way, whether the abuser is male or female. We are really not very civilised at all.
andrew0256 on
I was surprised to see the figure for DV reported by men was as high as it was at one third of all cases. I expected therefore the article would make a reference to this and the services on offer for abused men. I didn’t see any unless they are lumped in amongst the generalist term “people”. Male victims are often acknowledged but little is said about what is available to them. Before anyone gets antsy I am not diminishing the disgraceful violence perpetrated on women. This is not an either or thing.
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INB4
but wat about male domestic violence victims
When people wonder what the cost of drugs and alcohol is on society, this is a pretty strong indicator.
With 1 woman being killed by an abusive partner or ex-partner every 5 days (on average) one has to wonder why is there so much abuse occurring and what can be done about it.
Looking after women and children fleeing situations is absolutely right but it doesn’t fix the root of the problem. What is wrong with so many men behaving this way?, there is some seriously fucked up insecurity amongst those who feel they need to control their partner to force them to stick around, and that really needs to be addressed.
I’m not sure why the entirety of Scotland has been lumped together in that graphic, but Wales hasn’t. Seems a bit strange to me.
Am I misreading this or have they not adjusted by population? I’m not trying to argue against the main thrust but it seems a bit misleading if it is only the total number regardless of population.
I’d also like to see breakdowns by age, income and ethnicity. Does anybody know if that is available?
That map is Terrible. Makes it look like London and scotland are really bad.Â
But the map doesn’t account for the population of the areas, so of course areas with more people look bad.Â
“As a result, this publication and Refuge have launched the Brick by Brick campaign to raise £300,000 to build a safe home for women to escape their abusive partners.”
This just shows how the housing famine is part of the problem. That 300k would be lucky to get a 3 bed semi.
One of the reasons people get stuck in abusive situations is the cost and difficulty of trying to get away and setup another life.
If we cut rent in half it would help people live independently.
Map only shows raw number of cases without considering population. So completely fucking useless as a graphic because it gives no indication of where rates of domestic abuse are higher.
This is gonna trend on r/scotland
Some idiot put this together like Scotland is full of people who are a meme of a 1930s dock worker that goes to the pub after work to knock back 8 pints and then beats their wife up before going to bed and doing it all over again the next day.
Used to work for a charity getting toys to kids in shelters. The numbers of kids I was sending toys too of all ages what shocked me. Wasn’t just A or 2 a week it was 40boxes to secret refuges and of course all evidence of their address after was destroyed.
This is such a rubbish map and lacks crucial nuance.
Can’t open it? Does it mention female on male violence? This issue needs more press coverage.
Downvoted by apologists for female on male violence. How stupid and ignorant you are
Mess of an article that conflates two completely different measures of domestic abuse. Police recorded DA has been increasing, whilst Crime Survey of England and Wales data show long term decreases over the past 10 years. CSEW is a much better estimate of crime rates for most offending, but most reliable for DA over police data.
https://imgur.com/a/KrlAgvk
Domestic abuse more than doubled in 7 years.
I wonder why British men have suddenly and randomly become twice as violent.
There definitely couldn’t be any other possible explanations. Definitely not. Just British men suddenly becoming savages. Guess it must be Tate. I cannot possibly fathom another reason.
Abysmal map – possibly done deliberately as it’s so easy and obvious what the mistake is.
This shows a direct correlation between there being more people leading to more domestic violence cases. Incredible research
More violence happening in areas of higher population. Shock
More men more violence, same old same old, but just to keep it fair, wouldn’t surprise me if it was rising for the females as well.
All the Chelsea fans could explain why London is so dark. 🙃
Not only is the map data cherry picked by their own admission:
> Statistics from Devon and Cornwall are from April 2021 to March 2022, and Northern Ireland from April 2023 to March 2024. All other statistics are year ending March 2023.
But also the rates are in total for the area, not per-capita, so it’s pretty much just a population heat map.
Turns out the whole of Scotland has more domestic crimes reported than Somerset. Go figure.
Wow, there is a lot of domestic violence in the Scottish mountains.
The article is a complete mess, and the way the author has mixed in different stats makes it very confusing to read. I’d recommend you read the actual report here [https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/crimeandjustice/bulletins/crimeinenglandandwales/yearendingmarch2024#domestic-abuse](https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/crimeandjustice/bulletins/crimeinenglandandwales/yearendingmarch2024#domestic-abuse)
There’s a lot to take away from it but they could have easily chosen to headline the article “Domestic Abuse Has Decreased Over the Past Decade”, but of course, it isn’t as attractive.
>There has been a gradual decrease in domestic abuse over the last 10 years. The CSEW for YE March 2024 estimated that 5.4% of people aged 16 to 59 years experienced domestic abuse in the last year compared with 6.5% in YE March 2014.
Half a million men also affected, would ofcourse not get a mention, and needs to be brushed aside, since women are being affected more
The map is a nonsense. DV is absolutely prolific across income bands, regions and ethnicities. Anybody who has worked with children and families is aware of this. We have a huge problem as a society being unwilling to face up to this. And while alcohol can make it worse, it is not the primary driver. When I got the courage to leave my ex husband, I discovered that many of our friends knew, or at least suspected. Yet he kept the friends. It is unpleasant, uncomfortable and morally challenging, so most people look the other way, whether the abuser is male or female. We are really not very civilised at all.
I was surprised to see the figure for DV reported by men was as high as it was at one third of all cases. I expected therefore the article would make a reference to this and the services on offer for abused men. I didn’t see any unless they are lumped in amongst the generalist term “people”. Male victims are often acknowledged but little is said about what is available to them. Before anyone gets antsy I am not diminishing the disgraceful violence perpetrated on women. This is not an either or thing.