Yeahhh no they didn’t. Sure they provided *some* funds to us, but independence has always held firm here.
deathandstuff on
More interested in how they saved Irish music, is there any shred of truth to that or did they pull that out of their hole?
Alberto_Moses on
Yanks gonna yank
patch_worx on
I live in the US and have tried (and failed) to explain where Paddy comes from (my name is Pádraig so it’s personal), why the four leafed clover has nothing to do with Ireland, but the three leafed shamrock does (funnily enough the town of Dublin, California has a four leafed “shamrock” as it’s town sigil), that we don’t pinch people for not wearing green on St. Patrick’s day, that no one in Ireland has ever eaten corned beef and cabbage, and that saying Top O’ the morning to an Irish person is more likely to get you a slap than a cordial reply. I also don’t drink so I don’t leave my house on St Paddy’s. My accent gives me away and I literally hate every single interaction I have that day. It’s like being stuck in some hellish movie.
I think everyone over here sees the distinction between irish and irish-american. Let them have pattys day and corned beef
GustavoLovestein777 on
Wholeheartedly, fuck you.
BluishLookingWaffle on
Can we try doing The Statutes Of Boston or something?
octavioletdub on
I GROANED at the doubling down of “Patty” 🫠
danny_healy_raygun on
They’re right in a way. They do have their own culture. What they miss is that it’s American culture.
twolephants on
To be fair to him, I think it’s fair enough that Irish-American people have their own cultural things. The problem only arises when they try to say they are Irish cultural things. They’re not. They’re Irish-American, not Irish, which is the whole point.
cat_turned_to_smoke on
Pure bait and creative writing. Fuck off reposting this shite
MoonedToday on
OMG this made me laugh. People are so stupid and petty. That’s a hard T btw.
justformedellin on
Poster is right about some things – the massive contribution of Irish Americans to Irish independence and trad music. They’re just wrong about Patty. Fucking “Patty” ffs.
BlubberyGiraffe on
I genuinely don’t know why people A, give these gimps any notice or B, allows whatever they say to get under their skin.
These kinds of people are the ones who feel so lost and aimless that they need to create a rich historical identity to have some kind of purpose. These are the same people who’s country is about 300 years old.
I find it kind of sad. Whatever about wanting to learn more, but to be so insecure about (what feels like) your purpose and identity, that you critise the very culture you feel like you come, from speaks volumes about the kind of smoothbrain you are.
Honestly, the very nature of these kinds of comments are to either create rage engagement, or so that someone will begin a discussion with them where they can spout off all their nonsense and knowledge to feel better about themselves.
Shark-Feet on
Americans have this incessant need to cling onto whatever culture their ancestors had because their country was populated by immigrants and colonizers so they have little culture of their own.
I don’t understand why they can’t just be “American” – this nonsense of Irish American, Italian American, Israeli American, African American etc etc is so cringe. Just be American.
OvertiredMillenial on
If some fella who was born, raised and had only ever lived in New Hampshire started walking around with a ten-gallon hat, boot spurs and a belt buckle shaped like Texas because his great-great grandfather was from Dallas, you just know every right-minded person in New Hampshire would rightfully look at him weird because claiming your Texan when you’re actually from New Hampshire is weird.
But somehow they don’t think it’s weird to claim to be of a country that neither they nor their parents nor their grandparents nor even their great-grandparents have ever lived in.
dindsenchas on
Lol.
TragedyAnnDoll on
As American who studied Irish history in Limerick this is a devastatingly bad take and once again I find myself embarrassed to be an American. I wish my people knew how to do what every other country does and just shut the fuck up.
Sorry people of Ireland. Again.
System_Web on
fading_anonymity on
Dutchie here, I suppose Europeans might have plenty of cultural differences and various historical disputes but I think all European countries can unite behind a common banner that says: Fuck these arrogant self-absorbed Americans and their highfalutin bullshit.
DartzIRL on
My windowsill has created more culture than this individual. That black mould shit’s probably less toxic to be around in the long run aswell.
Ultimately, as a culture they’re the shit thinned-out shamrock-shake or taco-bell sanitisation of something real to make it palatable to the driest and whitest shites of them all. They’ve taken something genuine, watered it down and then tried to sell it back as the real thing.
the_sneaky_one123 on
So long as they always refer to themselves as Irish Americans rather than just Irish then I am ok with this.
They are not Irish, they are Irish Americans. Its related, but its not the same thing.
Irish American is a whole other thing in itself.
wascallywabbit666 on
dindsenchas on
The irony of an Irish American with a colonial mindset towards Ireland. Very American. Thanks for civilising us with our own culture, lads.
Irish Americans sometimes strongly preserve Irish attitudes, humour, values etc but they are also very American. And sometimes they’re just dicks through any cultural lense, like this dope.
aYANKinEIRE on
Jesus that’s embarrassing
Apprehensive_Lie357 on
This sub has a weird obsession with Americans of Irish descent for some reason.
Seriously, this topic pops up every few days. Don’t you get bored of getting angry at the same thing over and over?
The only time I’ve even SEEN corned beef was in England. I live in Offaly…..
Truth_To_Powder on
What complete waffle
Significant-Salt-989 on
Irish Americans are not the Irish and that’s the bottom line, and the Irish owe them nothing. Their north Americans. They tend to be right wing reactionary ultra conservatives. The complete opposite of 90% of the Irish. Stay in America and leave us here in Ireland alone.
mastodonj on
The Irish-Americans are at it again…
DGBD on
> We have earned the right to our own Irish cultural ways.
This seems like a perfectly reasonable take and one worth making giving the slating Irish-Americans often get for things like “Patty.” Ireland has always had a contentious relationship with its diaspora, but it doesn’t sound like this person is making a case that they’re “more Irish than the Irish themselves,” they’re making a case that Irish-American expressions of identity are valid. Which they are.
RemarkableCounty3737 on
I’m genuinely asking here, not trying to be snotty but you hear people who are born in England but of say, Somalian descent, call themselves Somalian rather than English. I get that there must be differences here but in theory, Americans calling themselves Irish is not much different?
The only problem I have with Irish Americans is them coming up with their traditions/stereotypes for us. Were bad enough at doing that ourselves, we don’t need someone else doing it for us haha
High_Flyer87 on
They are right.
SpiritualNumber1989 on
Must be pure shite to be American. They are always trying to claim everyone else’s culture, they can’t stand the fact they’re American.
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What a feckin donkey
Yeahhh no they didn’t. Sure they provided *some* funds to us, but independence has always held firm here.
More interested in how they saved Irish music, is there any shred of truth to that or did they pull that out of their hole?
Yanks gonna yank
I live in the US and have tried (and failed) to explain where Paddy comes from (my name is Pádraig so it’s personal), why the four leafed clover has nothing to do with Ireland, but the three leafed shamrock does (funnily enough the town of Dublin, California has a four leafed “shamrock” as it’s town sigil), that we don’t pinch people for not wearing green on St. Patrick’s day, that no one in Ireland has ever eaten corned beef and cabbage, and that saying Top O’ the morning to an Irish person is more likely to get you a slap than a cordial reply. I also don’t drink so I don’t leave my house on St Paddy’s. My accent gives me away and I literally hate every single interaction I have that day. It’s like being stuck in some hellish movie.
Brain worms.
The yank has clearly never heard [Every Dollar a Bullet ](https://youtu.be/or09DEFJT6U?feature=shared)
Lol, lmao even
This is a repost.
I think everyone over here sees the distinction between irish and irish-american. Let them have pattys day and corned beef
Wholeheartedly, fuck you.
Can we try doing The Statutes Of Boston or something?
I GROANED at the doubling down of “Patty” 🫠
They’re right in a way. They do have their own culture. What they miss is that it’s American culture.
To be fair to him, I think it’s fair enough that Irish-American people have their own cultural things. The problem only arises when they try to say they are Irish cultural things. They’re not. They’re Irish-American, not Irish, which is the whole point.
Pure bait and creative writing. Fuck off reposting this shite
OMG this made me laugh. People are so stupid and petty. That’s a hard T btw.
Poster is right about some things – the massive contribution of Irish Americans to Irish independence and trad music. They’re just wrong about Patty. Fucking “Patty” ffs.
I genuinely don’t know why people A, give these gimps any notice or B, allows whatever they say to get under their skin.
These kinds of people are the ones who feel so lost and aimless that they need to create a rich historical identity to have some kind of purpose. These are the same people who’s country is about 300 years old.
I find it kind of sad. Whatever about wanting to learn more, but to be so insecure about (what feels like) your purpose and identity, that you critise the very culture you feel like you come, from speaks volumes about the kind of smoothbrain you are.
Honestly, the very nature of these kinds of comments are to either create rage engagement, or so that someone will begin a discussion with them where they can spout off all their nonsense and knowledge to feel better about themselves.
Americans have this incessant need to cling onto whatever culture their ancestors had because their country was populated by immigrants and colonizers so they have little culture of their own.
I don’t understand why they can’t just be “American” – this nonsense of Irish American, Italian American, Israeli American, African American etc etc is so cringe. Just be American.
If some fella who was born, raised and had only ever lived in New Hampshire started walking around with a ten-gallon hat, boot spurs and a belt buckle shaped like Texas because his great-great grandfather was from Dallas, you just know every right-minded person in New Hampshire would rightfully look at him weird because claiming your Texan when you’re actually from New Hampshire is weird.
But somehow they don’t think it’s weird to claim to be of a country that neither they nor their parents nor their grandparents nor even their great-grandparents have ever lived in.
Lol.
As American who studied Irish history in Limerick this is a devastatingly bad take and once again I find myself embarrassed to be an American. I wish my people knew how to do what every other country does and just shut the fuck up.
Sorry people of Ireland. Again.
Dutchie here, I suppose Europeans might have plenty of cultural differences and various historical disputes but I think all European countries can unite behind a common banner that says: Fuck these arrogant self-absorbed Americans and their highfalutin bullshit.
My windowsill has created more culture than this individual. That black mould shit’s probably less toxic to be around in the long run aswell.
Ultimately, as a culture they’re the shit thinned-out shamrock-shake or taco-bell sanitisation of something real to make it palatable to the driest and whitest shites of them all. They’ve taken something genuine, watered it down and then tried to sell it back as the real thing.
So long as they always refer to themselves as Irish Americans rather than just Irish then I am ok with this.
They are not Irish, they are Irish Americans. Its related, but its not the same thing.
Irish American is a whole other thing in itself.
The irony of an Irish American with a colonial mindset towards Ireland. Very American. Thanks for civilising us with our own culture, lads.
Irish Americans sometimes strongly preserve Irish attitudes, humour, values etc but they are also very American. And sometimes they’re just dicks through any cultural lense, like this dope.
Jesus that’s embarrassing
This sub has a weird obsession with Americans of Irish descent for some reason.
Seriously, this topic pops up every few days. Don’t you get bored of getting angry at the same thing over and over?
“All the Americans are over here….” 😁 https://youtu.be/0Z-dbFhQBmQ?si=J-A3O3IFVs9PhN6k
forgot de Valera and Collins were from The Bronx
Sad fuckers hahahahaha
Patty is the most embarrassing American trait
The only time I’ve even SEEN corned beef was in England. I live in Offaly…..
What complete waffle
Irish Americans are not the Irish and that’s the bottom line, and the Irish owe them nothing. Their north Americans. They tend to be right wing reactionary ultra conservatives. The complete opposite of 90% of the Irish. Stay in America and leave us here in Ireland alone.
The Irish-Americans are at it again…
> We have earned the right to our own Irish cultural ways.
This seems like a perfectly reasonable take and one worth making giving the slating Irish-Americans often get for things like “Patty.” Ireland has always had a contentious relationship with its diaspora, but it doesn’t sound like this person is making a case that they’re “more Irish than the Irish themselves,” they’re making a case that Irish-American expressions of identity are valid. Which they are.
I’m genuinely asking here, not trying to be snotty but you hear people who are born in England but of say, Somalian descent, call themselves Somalian rather than English. I get that there must be differences here but in theory, Americans calling themselves Irish is not much different?
The only problem I have with Irish Americans is them coming up with their traditions/stereotypes for us. Were bad enough at doing that ourselves, we don’t need someone else doing it for us haha
They are right.
Must be pure shite to be American. They are always trying to claim everyone else’s culture, they can’t stand the fact they’re American.