Found this on Hatebook, without a source. Quite illustrative how different the average speed of trains is in Europe. And that CH as a rich country lags so much behind. There’s this mindset that high speed rail in CH is “too expensive”, “the country too small”, “stops too close”, “there’s no land”. Small country, small minds if you ask me.
Modern high speed trains accelerate quickly, btw. And we can afford tunnels.
What do you think?
Edit: Yep, small minds. Nothing unexpected. Pile on the knee-jerk emotional downvotes! 🙂
Wiechu on
i am not buying it… Poland with 113.6? this would be only possible if a lot of regular, slow speed connections were cancelled and thus the high speed network would bring up the stats…
oh wait…
Dabraxus on
Oh no, it’s another “why does Switzerland not have a dedicated high speed rail network??” post.. Has it already been 24 hours?
la_catwalker on
If the train has to go through tunnels and mountains, duh it’s gonna be a bit slower than on the flatland. But hey…. It’s actually faster in Switzerland than in Netherlands…
RoastedRhino on
What is “average”?
Fast trains in Italy go faster than that, but regional trains are way slower (and you would not care so much about their speed would you?)
Having a high density network with many smaller trains that have many stops mixed with high speed trains will obviously give a lower average speed than if your country only invests in a few long distance trains. So how does this graphic have anything to say?
Speed is irrelevant, what matters is throughput.
heliosh on
Ohni Olte wärs sicher öppe 210
antiponerologist on
At least it’s faster than 27.6
Grengis_Kahn on
WTF, Norway?
therealnatural1337 on
Albania 27.6 wtf at this speed is better to walk.
WurzelKing on
A point that no one has brought up yet is distances. We are not a big country, that means that to get from one point to another within a reasonable timeframe is possible without having to rely on high speed trains. So why would you invest in infrastructure that is not that much more beneficial but much more costly.
postmodernist1987 on
Does this calculate the speed from actual departure time or from the planned departure time?
user13376942069 on
It would be amazing to have a high speed trains between cities like zurich and Basel… So many people do this painful commute everyday
Classic-Increase938 on
What do the countries with a a high speed have in common. France, Italy, Spain, Germany. Exactly, They are broke. Switzerland would rather not be part of it.
SpiritedInflation835 on
Did they analyze the relevant train connections? The ones that the average traveler uses several times a week?
And looking at train speeds misses obvious other things, like train services in rural areas (where Switzerland is absolutely top).
costakkk on
So this map shows which countries have a good regional train network (slow/many stops) and which have only long distance trains (fast).
joseph4th on
Well, you know that old poem, “In Spain, the trains go faster in the plains.”
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Found this on Hatebook, without a source. Quite illustrative how different the average speed of trains is in Europe. And that CH as a rich country lags so much behind. There’s this mindset that high speed rail in CH is “too expensive”, “the country too small”, “stops too close”, “there’s no land”. Small country, small minds if you ask me.
Modern high speed trains accelerate quickly, btw. And we can afford tunnels.
What do you think?
Edit: Yep, small minds. Nothing unexpected. Pile on the knee-jerk emotional downvotes! 🙂
i am not buying it… Poland with 113.6? this would be only possible if a lot of regular, slow speed connections were cancelled and thus the high speed network would bring up the stats…
oh wait…
Oh no, it’s another “why does Switzerland not have a dedicated high speed rail network??” post.. Has it already been 24 hours?
If the train has to go through tunnels and mountains, duh it’s gonna be a bit slower than on the flatland. But hey…. It’s actually faster in Switzerland than in Netherlands…
What is “average”?
Fast trains in Italy go faster than that, but regional trains are way slower (and you would not care so much about their speed would you?)
Average speed of long-distance connections?
Tout ça c’est le rĂ©seau romand qui fait baisser les vitesses
Having a high density network with many smaller trains that have many stops mixed with high speed trains will obviously give a lower average speed than if your country only invests in a few long distance trains. So how does this graphic have anything to say?
Speed is irrelevant, what matters is throughput.
Ohni Olte wärs sicher öppe 210
At least it’s faster than 27.6
WTF, Norway?
Albania 27.6 wtf at this speed is better to walk.
A point that no one has brought up yet is distances. We are not a big country, that means that to get from one point to another within a reasonable timeframe is possible without having to rely on high speed trains. So why would you invest in infrastructure that is not that much more beneficial but much more costly.
Does this calculate the speed from actual departure time or from the planned departure time?
It would be amazing to have a high speed trains between cities like zurich and Basel… So many people do this painful commute everyday
What do the countries with a a high speed have in common. France, Italy, Spain, Germany. Exactly, They are broke. Switzerland would rather not be part of it.
Did they analyze the relevant train connections? The ones that the average traveler uses several times a week?
And looking at train speeds misses obvious other things, like train services in rural areas (where Switzerland is absolutely top).
So this map shows which countries have a good regional train network (slow/many stops) and which have only long distance trains (fast).
Well, you know that old poem, “In Spain, the trains go faster in the plains.”
At least the trains show up….