– Fine Gael 23 (+2 since end June)
– Sinn Féin 18 (-2)
– Fianna Fáil 18 (-1)
– Social Democrats 6 (+1)
– Ind Ireland 4 (-1)
– Greens 4 (-1)
– Labour 4 (+1)
– Aontú 4 (+1)
– PBP-Solidarity 3
– Independents/others 15
I’ve seen a few of the local politicians taking out bus shelter ads. There is no surer sign that it’s coming is there?
Ok-Package9273 on
Surely get the budget done first? Like even with the current polls, there’s a significant chance of a FF-SF government and if you genuinely believe you’re the best for the country, you want to set that crucial budget before going back to the electorate ahead of the end of your term.
ApprehensiveBed6206 on
Ivan Yates said on his podcast this week Simon Harris told senior Fine Gaelers during their think-in he wants a February 14th 2025 election. They apparently all disagree with him.
redditUser76754689 on
Mary Lou must have overseen one of the biggest drops of the ball I’ve ever seen in Irish politics over the last 2 years or so.
It seemed almost an inevitability that they’d be the biggest party after the next election and were scoring open goal after open goal.
Of course a lot can change yet but to go from support as high as the mid 30s to 18 and a net swing of around 20 percentage points to FG in 2 years is quite astonishing
boardsmember2017 on
Budget, hate speech legislation and banning of X will happen before an election gets called
WolfetoneRebel on
Who the fuck is actually voting for FG?!
Griss27 on
Fine Gael have the lead with 23%. That’s pathetic for the leading party. Indepedents with 15% and nutters with almost 10%.
It just tells me that there’s no party out there offering what the majority of people want. Which is feasible solutions to the housing crisis, cost of living crisis, runaway inward migrantion and lastly petty crime.
We KNOW that Fine Gael will protect the property values of their upper-middle class base. We KNOW this. They have done so for 13 years, and every time they were in power before. They will not solve the housing crisis because neither they nor their supporters want it solved, but rather eased just enough so that’s it’s no longer so politically pressing. They will go after demand-side solutions (offering buyers govt. money to assist a purchase) which only ever push prices up. They will NOT make it easier to build, they will not make it harder to object. They are entirely about individual’s property rights before the good of the country.
Maybe if we’re lucky they’ll build a new prison and we can start getting the worst of our repeat offenders off the streets, but I don’t trust them there either. Christ, it’s frustrating.
Tim-SCD on
Surge is ridiculous. No significant change really since local election or 2020 election for FG? Big 3 are FF, FG and SF up and down around 20%. FF and FG are identical so it’s predictably boring.
JX121 on
I’m still not understanding the upswing in FG? Anybody any clue what’s there appeal for the swing in polling?
dudeirish on
Housing, immigration and cost of living crisis.. brave
TheOwenParadox on
I don’t think we can overstate how unpopular Varadkar was, and how much of a bump FG have got by the simple act of getting rid of him.
Verity_Ireland on
Very depressing that we are going to end up stuck with the two main parties yet again. I’m involved in politics from another party (not SF or any racists idiot groups), Dail registered – and it’s very depressing. Disheartening to say the least. Makes you wonder. When will enough people get their head put of their ass!
LogDeep7567 on
I don’t have too much faith in the polls the last few years and they’ve gotten things wrong in a lot of countries but I would now say there’s no choice for SF but to oust Mary Lou. I think her interview this week about the very hard year she has had was bad decision because it was basically her just admitting that she’s had her eye off the ball (for good reason) , didn’t hand over the reigns to someone else when she couldn’t lead and now the party has suffered terribly for it.
Humeme on
How are we going to end up with the same people who haven’t helped the trend toward fixing the same problems that have existed their entire tenure in government. Beyond me at this rate.
earth-calling-karma on
I’d be very careful about basing anything on a Red C poll.
WickerMan111 on
Great to see.
Howyiz_ladz on
Sinn Fein is an open borders party, when the majority of people don’t want that.
saggynaggy123 on
Simon Harris should send the far-right a thank you card for helping FG get back into power
MBMD13 on
If the GE is called today on that poll, none of the fundamentals have really changed since 2020 IMO. FF and FG can just about rustle up a coalition between themselves with one or two of the small parties for security. Sinn Féin would have to go into coalition with FF and/or FG and/or a few of the small parties. And it’s hard to see what has changed about any party to make that to happen. Any party on 3 or 4 per cent in this poll that goes on to have a bad day out at the actual polling stations might well end up with no per cent of seats. On the other hand if they manage their vote well they could end up in government 🤷🏻♂️
hmmm_ on
FG, FF, Independents & maybe one of the smaller parties if they get their act together.
For all the people saying we need an alternative government, a different mix of parties which just throw even more money at problems is not what we need. We need a government which can make big structural changes which will upset a lot of electorate, similar to the FF/PD government for anyone who remembers that. The entire public service needs to be modernised and work practices changed (strikes…), we can’t have a major hospital in every county and things need to be rationalised (very unpopular locally), we have to repeal a whole host of planning laws and “rights” and clear the way for infrastructure and housing to be built (lots of vested interests..).
Key-Lie-364 on
When I was a kid, FG would get 35% and FF up to 44%.
“Surge” to 24%.
Jaysus Ted, times have changed.
Cautious-Hovercraft7 on
Polling only 1000 people is not a real poll
Techknow23 on
The fact anyone would actually vote FG baffles me. The public deserve what they get in this country honestly
Breifne21 on
Interesting that SF housing policy has had no effect whatsoever on the polling. Really seems to be the upper limit of their support.
BudgetLecture1702 on
Sinn Féin not running enough candidates to win the election in 2020 will go down as one of the biggest mistakes in Irish political history.
RebylReboot on
Pressure mounts on Harris. Not pressure on Harris mounts. You fucked me up for a second.
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POLL: Business Post/Red C
(Sept 5-10, MoE 3%)
– Fine Gael 23 (+2 since end June)
– Sinn Féin 18 (-2)
– Fianna Fáil 18 (-1)
– Social Democrats 6 (+1)
– Ind Ireland 4 (-1)
– Greens 4 (-1)
– Labour 4 (+1)
– Aontú 4 (+1)
– PBP-Solidarity 3
– Independents/others 15
Long term trend
https://www.politico.eu/europe-poll-of-polls/ireland/
isnt he calling one in November anyways ?
I’ve seen a few of the local politicians taking out bus shelter ads. There is no surer sign that it’s coming is there?
Surely get the budget done first? Like even with the current polls, there’s a significant chance of a FF-SF government and if you genuinely believe you’re the best for the country, you want to set that crucial budget before going back to the electorate ahead of the end of your term.
Ivan Yates said on his podcast this week Simon Harris told senior Fine Gaelers during their think-in he wants a February 14th 2025 election. They apparently all disagree with him.
Mary Lou must have overseen one of the biggest drops of the ball I’ve ever seen in Irish politics over the last 2 years or so.
It seemed almost an inevitability that they’d be the biggest party after the next election and were scoring open goal after open goal.
Of course a lot can change yet but to go from support as high as the mid 30s to 18 and a net swing of around 20 percentage points to FG in 2 years is quite astonishing
Budget, hate speech legislation and banning of X will happen before an election gets called
Who the fuck is actually voting for FG?!
Fine Gael have the lead with 23%. That’s pathetic for the leading party. Indepedents with 15% and nutters with almost 10%.
It just tells me that there’s no party out there offering what the majority of people want. Which is feasible solutions to the housing crisis, cost of living crisis, runaway inward migrantion and lastly petty crime.
We KNOW that Fine Gael will protect the property values of their upper-middle class base. We KNOW this. They have done so for 13 years, and every time they were in power before. They will not solve the housing crisis because neither they nor their supporters want it solved, but rather eased just enough so that’s it’s no longer so politically pressing. They will go after demand-side solutions (offering buyers govt. money to assist a purchase) which only ever push prices up. They will NOT make it easier to build, they will not make it harder to object. They are entirely about individual’s property rights before the good of the country.
Maybe if we’re lucky they’ll build a new prison and we can start getting the worst of our repeat offenders off the streets, but I don’t trust them there either. Christ, it’s frustrating.
Surge is ridiculous. No significant change really since local election or 2020 election for FG? Big 3 are FF, FG and SF up and down around 20%. FF and FG are identical so it’s predictably boring.
I’m still not understanding the upswing in FG? Anybody any clue what’s there appeal for the swing in polling?
Housing, immigration and cost of living crisis.. brave
I don’t think we can overstate how unpopular Varadkar was, and how much of a bump FG have got by the simple act of getting rid of him.
Very depressing that we are going to end up stuck with the two main parties yet again. I’m involved in politics from another party (not SF or any racists idiot groups), Dail registered – and it’s very depressing. Disheartening to say the least. Makes you wonder. When will enough people get their head put of their ass!
I don’t have too much faith in the polls the last few years and they’ve gotten things wrong in a lot of countries but I would now say there’s no choice for SF but to oust Mary Lou. I think her interview this week about the very hard year she has had was bad decision because it was basically her just admitting that she’s had her eye off the ball (for good reason) , didn’t hand over the reigns to someone else when she couldn’t lead and now the party has suffered terribly for it.
How are we going to end up with the same people who haven’t helped the trend toward fixing the same problems that have existed their entire tenure in government. Beyond me at this rate.
I’d be very careful about basing anything on a Red C poll.
Great to see.
Sinn Fein is an open borders party, when the majority of people don’t want that.
Simon Harris should send the far-right a thank you card for helping FG get back into power
If the GE is called today on that poll, none of the fundamentals have really changed since 2020 IMO. FF and FG can just about rustle up a coalition between themselves with one or two of the small parties for security. Sinn Féin would have to go into coalition with FF and/or FG and/or a few of the small parties. And it’s hard to see what has changed about any party to make that to happen. Any party on 3 or 4 per cent in this poll that goes on to have a bad day out at the actual polling stations might well end up with no per cent of seats. On the other hand if they manage their vote well they could end up in government 🤷🏻♂️
FG, FF, Independents & maybe one of the smaller parties if they get their act together.
For all the people saying we need an alternative government, a different mix of parties which just throw even more money at problems is not what we need. We need a government which can make big structural changes which will upset a lot of electorate, similar to the FF/PD government for anyone who remembers that. The entire public service needs to be modernised and work practices changed (strikes…), we can’t have a major hospital in every county and things need to be rationalised (very unpopular locally), we have to repeal a whole host of planning laws and “rights” and clear the way for infrastructure and housing to be built (lots of vested interests..).
When I was a kid, FG would get 35% and FF up to 44%.
“Surge” to 24%.
Jaysus Ted, times have changed.
Polling only 1000 people is not a real poll
The fact anyone would actually vote FG baffles me. The public deserve what they get in this country honestly
Interesting that SF housing policy has had no effect whatsoever on the polling. Really seems to be the upper limit of their support.
Sinn Féin not running enough candidates to win the election in 2020 will go down as one of the biggest mistakes in Irish political history.
Pressure mounts on Harris. Not pressure on Harris mounts. You fucked me up for a second.