The Trump admin made a deal with the Taliban to release 5000 Taliban prisoners and set the timetable for withdrawal. That people seem to forget that shows how hopelessly uneducated a large portion of American voters are.
itsatumbleweed on
This is perfectly timed to be a solid counterpunch due the debate.
InevitableAvalanche on
Headline should be “Generals blame Trump for the withdrawal from Afghanistan because it is totally his fault”.
peter-doubt on
Trump negotiated a gift to the Taliban.. no Afghan government input, date certain, and hard commitment by the US, regardless of who won in November.
It was stupid terms like these that made it a no-win situation. Trump was too stupid to notice
kabphillie on
The Trump administration purposely created an unwinnable situation for Biden to complete. *cough* Kobayashi Maru *cough*
Biden made sure that it wasn’t worse than what in ended up being.
TheDeepStateDirector on
The military withdrawal was one of the greatest examples of the mobility ever witnessed, but the public has no concept of what that required. All they saw were people suddenly realizing that the United States was leaving after twenty years and they didn’t like it.
orcinyadders on
Wanna see a Trump supporter fall apart instantly? Just ask them how many soldiers we lost in Afghanistan during Trump’s presidency.
ishtar_the_move on
What does Harris have anything to do with the US withdrawal from Afghanistan? Vice presidents rarely have any real participations in the administration. Her highest profile mission was previously thought to be on the border and her campaign quickly clarified she had nothing to do with it. I can’t imagine she had say about Afghanistan that requires defending.
bigjimbay on
>generals defend Harris
Well duh, of course they do
hooch on
You mean the US withdrawal from Afghanistan that the Trump administration negotiated? That withdrawal?
IBAZERKERI on
personally i do not care.
i am just glad we are OUT, imo we should have gotten out of afghanistan much much earlier and never gone to Iraq again at all.
FUCK BUSH, CHENEY, RUMSFELD, ALITO, POWELL AND RICE!
they are war criminals. if there was any justice in america they would all be in prison.
Techialo on
Hard to withdraw properly from a place we never should have been in to start with.
zach23456 on
Harris wasn’t president
Rabid_Alleycat on
Just watched Rep Jason Crow speak about the report. He said GOP would not release 5 depositions and did not interview any Trump WH officials. He also stated that in 3,200 pages of depositions, Harris was mentioned only 3 times, yet in the 350-page report, she’s mentioned 280 times. He also stated Republicans are standing in the way of getting more out by not allocating funds and special VISAs. So, appears to be yet another partisan report. I’m glad it’s out now. Surprised they didn’t wait until 11/1 to release it.
TwistedMemories on
Over 20 years and trillions of dollars spent on a war where we weren’t welcomed in the first place.
We’re going to spend trillions more on healthcare for those troops that were stationed there.
Lower-Grapefruit8807 on
There’s nothing to defend. She was VP it wasn’t her call one way or another
2HDFloppyDisk on
A notable name on the list of people who signed that latter is the former SgtMaj of the Marine Corps – Estrada.
KarlHavoc00 on
It’s like they’re begging her to make the argument and not just concede the issue. Why is she not on podcasts and talk shows every single day MAKING THE CASE FOR HER CANDIDACY? I don’t think she’s capable and it’s a fucking tragedy
snappydo99 on
>”He (Trump) repeatedly fails to take responsibility for his own role in putting service members in harm’s way. Without involving the Afghan government, he and his Administration negotiated a deal with the Taliban that freed 5000 Taliban fighters and allowed them to return to the battlefield. Then, he left President Biden and Vice President Harris with no plans to execute a withdrawal, and with little time to do so.”
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>”This chaotic approach severely hindered the Biden-Harris Administration’s ability to execute the most orderly withdrawal possible and put our service members and our allies at risk. Nevertheless, President Biden with the support of Vice President Harris ended America’s longest war, oversaw the largest airlift in U.S. history, and brought our troops home.”
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>It then goes on to note Trump’s disparaging comments about wounded veterans and the Medal of Honor.
hackingdreams on
I wish the headline explicitly said *FPOTUS’s* withdrawal from Afghanistan.
Because he did it. 100%. He *bragged* about doing it. He set free Taliban, hosted them at Camp David, and make the US commit to a walk-away date.
It’s on him. He owns this. Afghanistan is a Republican legacy of failure.
AlG9220 on
So here’s the thing with Afghanistan:
1. Trump made a deal (or well one of his cronies did, maybe Kushner or some other idiot. Who knows), releasing 5,000 Taliban prisoners in exchange for essentially nothing. This blind-sided the Afghan government and even our own military. Then, leading up to the transfer of power, Trump did his best to leave Afghanistan a complete mess to make Biden look bad. Honestly, Trump left such a disaster there that it’s a miracle we managed to evacuate so many people and that more Americans didn’t die. If Trump or any other Republican brings up Afghanistan, remind the American people that it was their fault at the end of the day.
2. Most importantly, staying there after getting Bin Laden was a complete waste of time and money (and most importantly, American lives). In 2011, the Afghan government was still unbelievably corrupt and incompetent and the Afghan National Army was more or less useless. This is after 10 years and billions of dollars in assistance. It was clear then that any more time or resources spent in Afghanistan would have been a waste. We should have pulled out sometime during Obama’s 2nd term and brought back anyone who risked their lives to help us. Of course, the military industrial complex and their favorite cronies (the neo-cons) did their best to keep us there indefinitely with no end goal in sight.
iBeelz on
Dated 2/29/2020:
U.S. Department of State (.gov)https://www.state.gov › 02….PDFJoint Declaration between the Islamic Republic of Afghanistan and the United …
1. The United States will reduce the number of U.S. military forces in Afghanistan to 8,600 and implement other commitments in the U.S.-Taliban agreement within 135 days of the announcement of this joint declaration and the U.S.-Taliban agreement, and will work with its allies and the Coalition to reduce proportionally the number of Coalition forces in Afghanistan over an equivalent period, subject to the Taliban’s fulfillment of its commitments under the U.S.-Talban agreement.
2. Consistent with the joint assessment and determination between the United States and the Islamic Republic of Afghanistan, the United States, its allies, and the Coalition will complete the withdrawal of their remaining forces from Afghanistan within 14 months following the announcement of this joint declaration and the U.S.-Taliban agreement, and will withdraw all their forces from remaining bases, subject to the Taliban’s fulfillment of its commitments under the U.S.-Taliban agreement.
Article dated 8/13/2021:
PolitiFact | Mitt Romney accurately says Trump administration worked to free 5,000 Taliban prisoners
* A 2020 agreement between the U.S. and the Taliban called for the release of up to 5,000 Taliban prisoners who were held by the Afghan government.Â
* News reports and statements from Afghanistan’s president indicate that the release happened. Afghanistan officials said they freed the prisoners at the request of the U.S.
Edit: the links aren’t working.. happy to DM
Timmy24000 on
You can bet Trump will have some family members of fallen soldiers during the draw in the audience
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The Trump admin made a deal with the Taliban to release 5000 Taliban prisoners and set the timetable for withdrawal. That people seem to forget that shows how hopelessly uneducated a large portion of American voters are.
This is perfectly timed to be a solid counterpunch due the debate.
Headline should be “Generals blame Trump for the withdrawal from Afghanistan because it is totally his fault”.
Trump negotiated a gift to the Taliban.. no Afghan government input, date certain, and hard commitment by the US, regardless of who won in November.
It was stupid terms like these that made it a no-win situation. Trump was too stupid to notice
The Trump administration purposely created an unwinnable situation for Biden to complete. *cough* Kobayashi Maru *cough*
Biden made sure that it wasn’t worse than what in ended up being.
The military withdrawal was one of the greatest examples of the mobility ever witnessed, but the public has no concept of what that required. All they saw were people suddenly realizing that the United States was leaving after twenty years and they didn’t like it.
Wanna see a Trump supporter fall apart instantly? Just ask them how many soldiers we lost in Afghanistan during Trump’s presidency.
What does Harris have anything to do with the US withdrawal from Afghanistan? Vice presidents rarely have any real participations in the administration. Her highest profile mission was previously thought to be on the border and her campaign quickly clarified she had nothing to do with it. I can’t imagine she had say about Afghanistan that requires defending.
>generals defend Harris
Well duh, of course they do
You mean the US withdrawal from Afghanistan that the Trump administration negotiated? That withdrawal?
personally i do not care.
i am just glad we are OUT, imo we should have gotten out of afghanistan much much earlier and never gone to Iraq again at all.
FUCK BUSH, CHENEY, RUMSFELD, ALITO, POWELL AND RICE!
they are war criminals. if there was any justice in america they would all be in prison.
Hard to withdraw properly from a place we never should have been in to start with.
Harris wasn’t president
Just watched Rep Jason Crow speak about the report. He said GOP would not release 5 depositions and did not interview any Trump WH officials. He also stated that in 3,200 pages of depositions, Harris was mentioned only 3 times, yet in the 350-page report, she’s mentioned 280 times. He also stated Republicans are standing in the way of getting more out by not allocating funds and special VISAs. So, appears to be yet another partisan report. I’m glad it’s out now. Surprised they didn’t wait until 11/1 to release it.
Over 20 years and trillions of dollars spent on a war where we weren’t welcomed in the first place.
We’re going to spend trillions more on healthcare for those troops that were stationed there.
There’s nothing to defend. She was VP it wasn’t her call one way or another
A notable name on the list of people who signed that latter is the former SgtMaj of the Marine Corps – Estrada.
It’s like they’re begging her to make the argument and not just concede the issue. Why is she not on podcasts and talk shows every single day MAKING THE CASE FOR HER CANDIDACY? I don’t think she’s capable and it’s a fucking tragedy
>”He (Trump) repeatedly fails to take responsibility for his own role in putting service members in harm’s way. Without involving the Afghan government, he and his Administration negotiated a deal with the Taliban that freed 5000 Taliban fighters and allowed them to return to the battlefield. Then, he left President Biden and Vice President Harris with no plans to execute a withdrawal, and with little time to do so.”
>
>”This chaotic approach severely hindered the Biden-Harris Administration’s ability to execute the most orderly withdrawal possible and put our service members and our allies at risk. Nevertheless, President Biden with the support of Vice President Harris ended America’s longest war, oversaw the largest airlift in U.S. history, and brought our troops home.”
>
>It then goes on to note Trump’s disparaging comments about wounded veterans and the Medal of Honor.
I wish the headline explicitly said *FPOTUS’s* withdrawal from Afghanistan.
Because he did it. 100%. He *bragged* about doing it. He set free Taliban, hosted them at Camp David, and make the US commit to a walk-away date.
It’s on him. He owns this. Afghanistan is a Republican legacy of failure.
So here’s the thing with Afghanistan:
1. Trump made a deal (or well one of his cronies did, maybe Kushner or some other idiot. Who knows), releasing 5,000 Taliban prisoners in exchange for essentially nothing. This blind-sided the Afghan government and even our own military. Then, leading up to the transfer of power, Trump did his best to leave Afghanistan a complete mess to make Biden look bad. Honestly, Trump left such a disaster there that it’s a miracle we managed to evacuate so many people and that more Americans didn’t die. If Trump or any other Republican brings up Afghanistan, remind the American people that it was their fault at the end of the day.
2. Most importantly, staying there after getting Bin Laden was a complete waste of time and money (and most importantly, American lives). In 2011, the Afghan government was still unbelievably corrupt and incompetent and the Afghan National Army was more or less useless. This is after 10 years and billions of dollars in assistance. It was clear then that any more time or resources spent in Afghanistan would have been a waste. We should have pulled out sometime during Obama’s 2nd term and brought back anyone who risked their lives to help us. Of course, the military industrial complex and their favorite cronies (the neo-cons) did their best to keep us there indefinitely with no end goal in sight.
Dated 2/29/2020:
U.S. Department of State (.gov)https://www.state.gov › 02….PDFJoint Declaration between the Islamic Republic of Afghanistan and the United …
1. The United States will reduce the number of U.S. military forces in Afghanistan to 8,600 and implement other commitments in the U.S.-Taliban agreement within 135 days of the announcement of this joint declaration and the U.S.-Taliban agreement, and will work with its allies and the Coalition to reduce proportionally the number of Coalition forces in Afghanistan over an equivalent period, subject to the Taliban’s fulfillment of its commitments under the U.S.-Talban agreement.
2. Consistent with the joint assessment and determination between the United States and the Islamic Republic of Afghanistan, the United States, its allies, and the Coalition will complete the withdrawal of their remaining forces from Afghanistan within 14 months following the announcement of this joint declaration and the U.S.-Taliban agreement, and will withdraw all their forces from remaining bases, subject to the Taliban’s fulfillment of its commitments under the U.S.-Taliban agreement.
Article dated 8/13/2021:
PolitiFact | Mitt Romney accurately says Trump administration worked to free 5,000 Taliban prisoners
* A 2020 agreement between the U.S. and the Taliban called for the release of up to 5,000 Taliban prisoners who were held by the Afghan government.Â
* News reports and statements from Afghanistan’s president indicate that the release happened. Afghanistan officials said they freed the prisoners at the request of the U.S.
Edit: the links aren’t working.. happy to DM
You can bet Trump will have some family members of fallen soldiers during the draw in the audience