Vintners call for tax cuts as pub trade ‘at a breaking point’

https://www.independent.ie/business/irish/vintners-call-for-tax-cuts-as-pub-trade-at-a-breaking-point/a1660989738.html

Posted by Holiday_Toe5779

30 Comments

  1. Holiday_Toe5779 on

    Where does the endless subsidizing of industries that can’t compete end? Should farmers and pub-owners be a protected class? Why shouldn’t nurses, teachers etc. also get a tax break? Reading how the tax take is up 12.6% on last year’s bumper haul, there’s an argument that we all could use a tax break …

  2. The price of a pint has crossed the tipping point for a lot of people. It simply isn’t worth it for what it costs. Regular and casual pints are an unnecessary expense for a lot of people, and the younger folk don’t seem to be adopting it at the same rate as the previous generations.

  3. If Wetherspoons can churn out imported beer at €2.60 a pint then it’s the vintners that need to up their game to reduce costs and reverse the decline, not beg governments for tax handouts

  4. They want a pause to the living wage increase. One hour work on this wouldn’t even get you 2 pints in a pub here in Cork City.

    People aren’t drinking in pubs because of prices. I’d like a 5% decrease on my PAYE but I don’t have a lobby group.

  5. When taxes were cut last time they passed none of the savings on to the consumer.

    If they are failing because not as many people are going out any more then why should the rest of us subsidise an obsolete business model?

  6. will they fuck cut the price of drink with any tax cut. they’ll say the tax cut will cover the increased min wage.

  7. The hardest working tykes in the games. They just never seem to have the ideal circumstances for running a business in. If the tax isn’t too high, the wages are, if it’s not wages it’s costs, it isn’t costs then they want a price floor on units.

  8. To copy what I posted on the Cork thread….
    I don’t get why the campaign is always focused on lowering vat to 9% or the fight minimum wage increases.

    I’ve no doubt some businesses are struggling but others are raking it in and the last vat cut wasn’t passed on to the consumer but the last vat rise definitely was.

    Instead of vat or wages, why don’t they call on Diageo to lower their prices or start stocking alternatives? Call on insurers to reduce premiums?

    Why don’t they call on landlords to lower commercial rents? Removing [rate relief](https://www.corkcity.ie/en/council-services/public-info/rates/) on vacant buildings would keep commercial rents down and could fund an overall rate cut for businesses trading.

    I’d support measures to reduce overheads making it easier to set up and keep the doors open. I’m not going to support a vat cut that fattens the margins across the industry benefitting pubs charging €10 a pint the most.

  9. Bosco_is_a_prick on

    No No No. Consumers need to stop paying high prices. The industry needs a massive reset.

  10. Due-Communication724 on

    Put simply, fuck em and fuck Diageo and Heineken. As someone on here put it, between the three of them, they have done what no NGO anti drink group could ever imagine doing.

  11. Delicious_Monitor820 on

    No.

    Working man calls for income tax cuts because he’s being done left right and center by businesses.

  12. Hang on – didn’t we bring in MUP in order to facilitate these greedy bastards…? Surely they cna look to that as a big enough cocession?

  13. Remeber a few years back the vinters jacked up prices and then annouced a “price freeze’ like some benevolant god.

    5er pints would get me back in more regularly.

  14. Ireland’s NRA. Remember minimum pricing, screwing cafe licenses, fucking over nightclubs by getting late bar licenses. Wankers

  15. fiercemildweah on

    I remember in the early 2000s, the Celtic Tiger doing 90, full employment and the price of drink going up leading to public debate.

    Some lad from the Vintners was on RTÉ and said if the people don’t like the price nobody was forcing people to buy it.

    How’s that working out for publicans.

  16. Own_Management_5740 on

    Same for the last few years. Vat dropped, and prices went up. They drove people from the pubs when they lobbied for minimum prices for alcohol. Did all the damage themselves. Pubs and restaurants are still making a roaring trade where I live. Don’t think nothing will change the direction of their trade now, unfortunately, and thats down for most places.

  17. Revolutionary_Pen190 on

    Should be calling for insurance companies to reduce their premiums as it is one of biggest factors in the hospitality

  18. Byrnzillionaire on

    Diageo puts price up 6c. Pubs raise price 40c. People stop going. Publicans:

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