Record numbers of migrants living in Britain are jobless with more than 1.6 million unemployed or ‘economically inactive’ people costing taxpayers an estimated £8billion
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13794959/Record-numbers-migrants-living-Britain-jobless.html
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and if you have an issue with this you are a far right hooligan
What about all the doctors and dentists we were promised??? 😂.
So I looked at the “research paper” [here](https://centreformigrationcontrol.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/04/5-THE-COSTS-OF-MIGRATION.pdf), they didn’t provide a source on the 1.6 million “economically inactive” migrants, they did provide a link to someone’s OneDrive though. They also seem to assume that each economically inactive migrant takes up as much money as every economically inactive individual in this country, which is unlikely given that migrants are not eligible for benefits and social housing for at least 5 years (except asylum seekers, which is a tiny minority of all migrants). Lastly, they didn’t account for the amount each migrant pays for their visa. For Skilled Worker Visa, the employer and employee each pays about £1000 per year, so a lot of the cost would have been offsetted by that.
Edit: one more point, a lot of these economically inactive would have ties to someone who is employed, like an employed person’s partner taking care of their kids or something, meaning the taxation that comes in from the employed is also not taken into account.
Tried to post this earlier but was deleted and warned…
The £8bn is likely inaccurate. It’s taken from the departments undeclared overspend. Would work out to £5k per person. The likely cost is much much higher.
1.6 million is 2.4% of the population or 4.8% of the working population. This situation is unsustainable and people need to have a serious conversation about this.
This has nothing to do with race or which nationality. 1.6 million people have come from abroad and are economically inactive, needing support, all while there isn’t even enough to maintain our infrastructure or support struggling British citizens
Am I missing something?
These are people with the right to live in the UK and doesn’t include asylum seekers etc.
Therefore under current rules these people needed to be sponsored to come here, or have a partner earning £29k.
There’s no mention of the net tax contribution of the household, the number of those people are claiming benefits, the number only temporarily out of work for something like childcare or redundancy, the number who are retired or financially independent. And the number has not increased that significantly since 2012.
Seems like a nothing burger. Edit. The reason it’s a nothing burger is because there’s no evidence that these people are costing the tax payer anything.
Ask dailymail for source , and they will point toward holes between their legs.
And I wonder how they derive this number. Being a migrant myself the only time I told any official that I am unemployed is when I register with my GP. I didn’t update my status after I got a job. So is the data here really accurate?
Migration can be *such an easy win* when implemented sensibly. You take in highly-skilled migrants who have not burdened your education system: doctors, scientists, engineers, white-collar professionals, tech workers – all who pay loads of income tax and sometimes create new companies which create new jobs. Even low-skilled immigration can be an easy win provided those unskilled migrants are only here *temporarily*, are not a burden on welfare and can support themselves, and are immediately sent back if they commit crime.
But it is like the UK has explicitly chosen to have the worst possible migration policy possible with an emphasis on: unskilled migrants, welfare dependant migrants, welfare dependant migrants’ families, migrants from culturally incompatible countries who are unlikely to integrate, illegal migrants, migrants on student visas at bottom-ranked universities doing pretend degrees, granting asylum to people who are actually economic migrants while ignoring real refugees in camps abroad.
Let’s bring more in and then when we complain about it call us far right and racist
The lack of culture and heritage we have already is dwindling and we are just gonna continue to lose it
There’s a reason that the far right are gaining popularity across Europe and the UK, and it’s the simple fact that the average person has had enough of illegal immigration and our governments answer is to call us all racist and completely ignore the people..
The rise of the far right is completely down to governments and their lack of listening to the people for fear of being called racist..
Found our blackhole that Reeves keeps talking about.
Pointing it out means you’re racist, this is obviously a joke but not too far from the tactics the left employee to get these people here in the first place!
Ah yes the Daily Heil where “source” = red or brown.
This sub is a cesspit because the mods allow anything to go up completely unfact-checked
Between this and the near 7bn were spending hosting asylum seekers in hotels that’s Reeves’s black hole almost filled. Add in foreign aid (which seems to go to countries that have higher econonix development than parts of the UK) and gibs for the public sector and were in the money.
Bet we’ll just get tax rises by the back door though.
A lot of them do work but cash in hand. I’ve seen it done on driveways. Cheap labour, which is probably propping up the economy in more ways than we can imagine.
Worth taking anything the daily mail say with a bucket of salt
Nonsense article about a nonsense stat – migrants have no recourse to public funds. They’ve just took the average cost of an economic inactive person (migrant or not) and multiplied it by the number of economically inactive migrants.
Doesn’t help that we actively withhold the right to work for asylum seekers too.
Meanwhile tobacco duty brings in £8.8 billion, but costs the NHS £2.5 billion (2% of their budget for 12.9% of the population)… directly but indirectly I suspect that smokers generally die younger and quicker, overall saving the NHS from years of treatment. Plus less pensions, and yet the government wants to make a song and dance about the cost to the country…
I am not a smoker, but I object to the government’s overreach on this.
How many of the far-right “protestors” were unemployed? And how many will be on benefits once we’ve finished paying their rent and board?
Using the government expenditure to estimate the cost is an interesting approach. Assumes that they take an equal share of health (unlikely as working age) and education (arguably more likely as may have kids)
And it’s also worth noting said think tank seems to exist on aubstack only with three whole blogs. Sorry reports.
The source : https://migrationctrl.substack.com/p/record-number-of-workless-migrants
This needs to be looked at from the side of contractor services making profit. Its not a problem its a gravy train.
The comments here are exactly what papers like the Daily Mail want. A ‘study’ that’s completely tenuous and loaded with assumptions (immigrants don’t claim benefits), that’s completely irrelevant now because it’s got people prattling on about ‘loss of our culture’ and ‘they call us racists for being concerned.’
How about companies running so long they trim the need for staff from retail stores and expec a bone shift crew to run it perfectly every day.. Like.. Well.. Any retail store you’ve been to. They are working their best thinking its to keep their job. In reality it’s a daily flailing. So many retail stores could be far better, but ideal is the least.. If the gov could whip companies back into drawing back that line goes up always and forever mentalitiy and just spent a actual drop of the profit on more staff.. But it’s minizing cost and maxing profit till a place goes bellly up. Then sell it! We live in the future, WOOOOO!
There were 1.8 million people claiming unemployment related benefits in the UK in July 2024.
So all but 200 thousand of them were immigrants?
Can someone check this data?
Such a misleading title from the Daily Mail, yet again.
No, “economically inactive” is not a necessarily a bad thing. If you are extremely successful and retire as a billionaire in your 40s you would count as economically inactive. A housewife married to somebody earning £200k would be economically inactive.
I’m currently living off savings and doing my own home renovations to save money. I do not take any benefits. It is literally cheaper for me to not work and do my own renovation than work and contract it out, plus it is much less stressful and satisfying. I’ve paid more VAT on materials than the average deliveroo worker pays in income tax I’m pretty sure. But that’s bad for the stats! They’d rather me work and pay all that money to tradies instead because that would generate more GDP….
Cut benefits if you want but don’t whine about me choosing to be economically inactive if I can afford it…
Edit: Also know people that don’t work because it is smarter than working and paying all their salary to child care…
Typical rage bait from the Daily Mail I suspect.
What economically inactive means to the ONS:
* retired (whether receiving a pension or not)
* studying
* looking after home or family
* long-term sick or disabled
* another reason
There are 600-700,000 international students living in the UK, who I guess would be classed as inactive.
Economically active means:
* economically active: in employment (an employee or self-employed)
* economically active: unemployed (those who were looking for work and could start within two weeks, or waiting to start a job that had been offered and accepted)
[https://www.ons.gov.uk/employmentandlabourmarket/peopleinwork/employmentandemployeetypes/bulletins/economicactivitystatusenglandandwales/census2021#economically-inactive](https://www.ons.gov.uk/employmentandlabourmarket/peopleinwork/employmentandemployeetypes/bulletins/economicactivitystatusenglandandwales/census2021#economically-inactive)
“It covers people aged between 16 and 64 who were born overseas and have the right to live in the UK, but excludes students and asylum-seekers.”
Please stop reading the fucking daily Mail.
Why do we feed them? That’s fucked up, if they don’t wanna contribute then they should go out and forage or better yet they can just git out
I’m sure they are economically active but not in the way the society would like to.
Good for them they can enjoy free hotels, healthcare, food and pocket money. What else would you need in life?
Meanwhile I’ll go to sleep cause I need to go to work tomorrow, so that our guests can have a good time here.
At least when our taxes rise in the autumn budget next month we know where that money is going to
Why do we let this bot get away with posting constant right wing news articles with the occasional left wing article to throw off the scent? It’s so blatant.
I’m sure the exodus of EU migrants has helped this balance /s
It’s a daily fail article, the numbers are skewed, however, I do agree with the sentiment implied, we ignore our desperate vulnerable people, many off them ex soldiers and kids of taxpayers who have fell through the cracks in society and instantly house or hotel, social economic migrants in comparative luxury. I’m not a far right nazi bit this is wrong…
not a Trump fan, but I think Trump coming to power will be a good thing, he will withdraw military support, not very good Ukraine so I don’t want it happen. But It will force the UK and EU political to stop wasting money on their fanatasies and start spending it on defence and growing the economy. An 8 billion investment in energy infrastructure per year could really transform the economy.