Allowing corporations to import labour from a global market to explicitly depress wages, is a textbook example of unregulated free market laissez faire capitalism. As far right economically as you can get.
Corporate far right created socially far right boogyman
Snoo-7986 on
The issue is: nobody is willing to talk about the things the far right are moaning about. The current government are not in any way going to deal with the issues which are fueling the far right – in fact i’d probably put money on them exacerbating the issues. This will only cause issues further down the line, as people feel that their opinions are being dismissed, which will push them to far right parties.
This isn’t a UK issue. The far right is gaining popularity all over europe and as long as the in-situ governments dismiss, or even mock the ones voting for them, it’ll only get worse.
You can’t imprison 14% of the population.
GMN123 on
Translation: we’re not going to take action on issues that a significant and growing proportion of the voting public are most concerned about and we’re going to call them Nazis when they vote for someone else who will.
Twolef on
Being a centrist isn’t going to fix it. It’s exactly that kind of political vacuum that creates the problem.
mountain4455 on
Haven’t heard this tosspot condemn the disgraceful scenes at Notting Hill Carnival yet
lookatmeman on
The UK is a very moderate country and historically always has been. There are far right nut cases but by in large the UK is a fair place that likes an underdog. We are never going to have a far right party any where near power.
What we have is a real problem with out of control immigration coupled with a lack of resources. Our prisons are full, we don’t have enough houses, we don’t have enough money, literally everything is underfunded and we are being asked to pay more every day either by direct taxation or inflation.
People that have concerns over the above don’t want to keep being shutdown or distracted by their leaders that invoke nazism whenever they ask where are these people going to be housed and what is being done to control the numbers.
PetulantSandbag on
The far right are a clear threat and the grifters at the top should be in jail.
Nogel Farage is an open threat to British security and helped oversee Brexit, which they knew was designed and influenced by Russia to weaken NATO and divide Europe as well as America and Britain. They’ve intentionally drove the British economy into the biggest act of suicide possible and after all that are they happy? Nope, still shouting about foreigners.
They’re lead by nonces, criminals and supported by the weak, insecure and terrified who are easily tricked into being slaves for those at the top. They went to war with Britain. Not foreigners, not illegal immigrants, Britain itself. They’re vile vermin and I couldn’t give one fuck what happens them.
If Britain has any respect it will trample these cockroaches.
How we do that is to invest, higher tax for top earners, get the money from the corporate overlords fuelling far right hate and get it into the community and give these people who have been left behind by Britain a fair chance at life and they’ll stop targeting people of a different skin colour.
Pretend-Jackfruit786 on
This guy is doing my head in, fix the real problems instead of using some stupid strawman argument
originolo on
Are you really far right if you have a problem with immigration? Because at this moment the country stands very divided. Starmer seems to be doubling down on the “if you’re not with me you’re against me and that makes you a far right Nazi” and is effectively digging his own grave. I would like to see if there was a referendum right now how many people regret voting Labour.
The majority of the British public want a crack down on illegal immigration, a crack down on religious fanatics (yes Islamic mainly) a tighter border and a fucking pay rise. He had the world in his hands and his entire legacy is siding against the British public and banning smoking from beer gardens.
Edit: I should note, in the first sentence I meant Illegal immigration.
Away-Activity-469 on
Banning smoking in beer gardens is a sure-fire way of convincing some to vote Reform. Silly little issues like that are far more powerful than macro economic arguments.
Logical-Brief-420 on
Let’s have some discussion about how we’re going to solve that issue then, and some discussion that isn’t “they’re completely wrong about everything” would be helpful.
Don’t get me wrong my views and opinions couldn’t differ more from the far right but it would be bloody stupid to say that some of their concerns aren’t valid. But we can’t talk about the number 1 issue of migration, because it’s either racist or propping up the pyramid scheme of pensions and low paid careers depending on who you ask.
Cute_Kale5800 on
Mass immigration creates cultural, economic and resource competition. There is no way out of it other than to reduce it. They need to stop this bollocks.
AlexT301 on
“Shut up, we don’t want to talk about that, you’re a nazi” -Keir Starmer
Electric_Death_1349 on
One thing that’ll stop the far right – more austerity! More cuts to public services! More tax cuts for the wealthy! More falling living standards! More wage stagnation!
If you think the far right are a threat now, wait until Keith and his neoliberal clown troupe have completed their first term
Public_Growth_6002 on
If he’s concerned (rightly or wrongly), all he has to do is demonstrate that the Government is maintaining the social contract with and for its citizens.
That’s why we pay our taxes. And that’s what we expect in return. It’s not rocket science.
Prestigious_Clock865 on
And that’s why we’re going to embolden them with the same austerity economics of the last 14 years
charlie_cupcakes on
Very centered but not listening to what they have to say doesn’t help and only divides, starmer and the far left are just as much a threat but I feel media and people try and ignore it. All I’m seeing from far right,right, centre is there’s a problem with immigration and they ain’t wrong. People need to be listened to on all sides.
Majestic_Fly88 on
The left are trying to label anyone that doesn’t agree with their policies as far right. People are generally afraid to be labelled far right, the hope that people will shift their views more towards the left’s line of thinking to avoid being labelled as far right.
Abosia on
Does Kier Starmer realise the best way for him to beat the far right is to address the concerns that cause people to embrace the far right, not by locking them all up?
Erectusnow on
I give him 2 weeks before he declares war against Eurasia
Mistakenjelly on
No Starmer, they are only a threat to you, and your incompetence is handing them more and more power every minute you sit on your hands do absolutely nothing.
maxhaton on
Where is this far right? Who is it’s leader? Farage? He’s a Tory clown, come on now.
If you won’t talk about immigration issues then it will only get worse moron
AnalThermometer on
Stem it by addressing immigration. Denmark reduced their asylum numbers by 84% using some common sense measures, one being that the courts have decided parts of Syria are safe to deport to, rather than blanket blocking deportations to the entire country as the UK does. For that to happen though, you need a legal sector that’s in alignment with the interests of the country and not chasing an idealist concept of justice. It seems highly unlikely Starmer will try it as he’s very much lived inside the current system
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The Confederation of British Industry, who lobby on behalf of many large businesses in the UK “at its annual conference, have been clamouring for more flexibility on hiring foreign workers, as a [tight labour market](https://www.theguardian.com/business/2022/nov/15/uk-strike-pay-wage-growth-unemployment-inflation) wreaks havoc on their businesses and drives up wages.”.
Allowing corporations to import labour from a global market to explicitly depress wages, is a textbook example of unregulated free market laissez faire capitalism. As far right economically as you can get.
Corporate far right created socially far right boogyman
The issue is: nobody is willing to talk about the things the far right are moaning about. The current government are not in any way going to deal with the issues which are fueling the far right – in fact i’d probably put money on them exacerbating the issues. This will only cause issues further down the line, as people feel that their opinions are being dismissed, which will push them to far right parties.
This isn’t a UK issue. The far right is gaining popularity all over europe and as long as the in-situ governments dismiss, or even mock the ones voting for them, it’ll only get worse.
You can’t imprison 14% of the population.
Translation: we’re not going to take action on issues that a significant and growing proportion of the voting public are most concerned about and we’re going to call them Nazis when they vote for someone else who will.
Being a centrist isn’t going to fix it. It’s exactly that kind of political vacuum that creates the problem.
Haven’t heard this tosspot condemn the disgraceful scenes at Notting Hill Carnival yet
The UK is a very moderate country and historically always has been. There are far right nut cases but by in large the UK is a fair place that likes an underdog. We are never going to have a far right party any where near power.
What we have is a real problem with out of control immigration coupled with a lack of resources. Our prisons are full, we don’t have enough houses, we don’t have enough money, literally everything is underfunded and we are being asked to pay more every day either by direct taxation or inflation.
People that have concerns over the above don’t want to keep being shutdown or distracted by their leaders that invoke nazism whenever they ask where are these people going to be housed and what is being done to control the numbers.
The far right are a clear threat and the grifters at the top should be in jail.
Nogel Farage is an open threat to British security and helped oversee Brexit, which they knew was designed and influenced by Russia to weaken NATO and divide Europe as well as America and Britain. They’ve intentionally drove the British economy into the biggest act of suicide possible and after all that are they happy? Nope, still shouting about foreigners.
They’re lead by nonces, criminals and supported by the weak, insecure and terrified who are easily tricked into being slaves for those at the top. They went to war with Britain. Not foreigners, not illegal immigrants, Britain itself. They’re vile vermin and I couldn’t give one fuck what happens them.
If Britain has any respect it will trample these cockroaches.
How we do that is to invest, higher tax for top earners, get the money from the corporate overlords fuelling far right hate and get it into the community and give these people who have been left behind by Britain a fair chance at life and they’ll stop targeting people of a different skin colour.
This guy is doing my head in, fix the real problems instead of using some stupid strawman argument
Are you really far right if you have a problem with immigration? Because at this moment the country stands very divided. Starmer seems to be doubling down on the “if you’re not with me you’re against me and that makes you a far right Nazi” and is effectively digging his own grave. I would like to see if there was a referendum right now how many people regret voting Labour.
The majority of the British public want a crack down on illegal immigration, a crack down on religious fanatics (yes Islamic mainly) a tighter border and a fucking pay rise. He had the world in his hands and his entire legacy is siding against the British public and banning smoking from beer gardens.
Edit: I should note, in the first sentence I meant Illegal immigration.
Banning smoking in beer gardens is a sure-fire way of convincing some to vote Reform. Silly little issues like that are far more powerful than macro economic arguments.
Let’s have some discussion about how we’re going to solve that issue then, and some discussion that isn’t “they’re completely wrong about everything” would be helpful.
Don’t get me wrong my views and opinions couldn’t differ more from the far right but it would be bloody stupid to say that some of their concerns aren’t valid. But we can’t talk about the number 1 issue of migration, because it’s either racist or propping up the pyramid scheme of pensions and low paid careers depending on who you ask.
Mass immigration creates cultural, economic and resource competition. There is no way out of it other than to reduce it. They need to stop this bollocks.
“Shut up, we don’t want to talk about that, you’re a nazi” -Keir Starmer
One thing that’ll stop the far right – more austerity! More cuts to public services! More tax cuts for the wealthy! More falling living standards! More wage stagnation!
If you think the far right are a threat now, wait until Keith and his neoliberal clown troupe have completed their first term
If he’s concerned (rightly or wrongly), all he has to do is demonstrate that the Government is maintaining the social contract with and for its citizens.
That’s why we pay our taxes. And that’s what we expect in return. It’s not rocket science.
And that’s why we’re going to embolden them with the same austerity economics of the last 14 years
Very centered but not listening to what they have to say doesn’t help and only divides, starmer and the far left are just as much a threat but I feel media and people try and ignore it. All I’m seeing from far right,right, centre is there’s a problem with immigration and they ain’t wrong. People need to be listened to on all sides.
The left are trying to label anyone that doesn’t agree with their policies as far right. People are generally afraid to be labelled far right, the hope that people will shift their views more towards the left’s line of thinking to avoid being labelled as far right.
Does Kier Starmer realise the best way for him to beat the far right is to address the concerns that cause people to embrace the far right, not by locking them all up?
I give him 2 weeks before he declares war against Eurasia
No Starmer, they are only a threat to you, and your incompetence is handing them more and more power every minute you sit on your hands do absolutely nothing.
Where is this far right? Who is it’s leader? Farage? He’s a Tory clown, come on now.
In my mind the _far_ right is like the following: https://youtu.be/t64Y5qofCNE
If you won’t talk about immigration issues then it will only get worse moron
Stem it by addressing immigration. Denmark reduced their asylum numbers by 84% using some common sense measures, one being that the courts have decided parts of Syria are safe to deport to, rather than blanket blocking deportations to the entire country as the UK does. For that to happen though, you need a legal sector that’s in alignment with the interests of the country and not chasing an idealist concept of justice. It seems highly unlikely Starmer will try it as he’s very much lived inside the current system