The story that just won’t go away. Slow news weeks are the worst.
marquess_rostrevor on
Pretty sure Italy does that for accidents all the time.
PerceptionGreat2439 on
Some prankster has been out there and chucked a horses head in haven’t they.
happyreddituserffs on
Mad thing his co defendant in the US multi billion dollar case was killed the same week.🤔
Historical_Leg5998 on
All we need is for this story to somehow be tied into Jay Slater and the singularity can finally be achieved
Longjumping_Stand889 on
I seem to remember reading that Italian prosecutors have a lot of power and have been known to use high visibility crimes for personal promotion.
talligan on
This whole thing is 100% going to end up on some stats test about Bayesian inference
rocc_high_racks on
Headline:
>Potential homicide
Article body:
>potential manslaughter
This headline is purposefully fueling conspiracy theories. What they’re investigating is if the crew were reckless to the point of criminality, which seems quite likely IMO.
SrslyBadDad on
With both the defendants being killed on the same day, I think HP have hired Boeing’s hitmen.
-GuardPasser- on
I just heard all the bodies were In the same room. Which is a bit weird at 3 am.
Also the ships designer said it could never sink like that without lots of damage
apoplepticdoughnut on
Notwithstanding the misunderstood Italian legal system, which does now have manslaughter as a potential charge rather than homide (but don’t let that stop the press using “murder”). You could potentially prosecute Perini Navi, or the yacht operator(s), if you can demonstrate the yacht couldn’t right itself from turtle. In theory the weight distribution of the hull should mean that when capsized it naturally wants to turn back upright. But in practice, a few things have to happen:
1) The mainsail and any headsails cannot unfurl themselves (they’re stored in that thiccc mast and a furler on the bow) and create further resistance to righting.
2) The mast, radars, spreaders and stays cannot have counteracted righting of the hull (and that’s a lot of surface area creating resistance), and likewise all the shit above the centreline (extended cockpit, entertaining spaces, that massive solid bimini and any liferafts/watercraft) should have been low enough that they didn’t mess up the Centre of Gravity and Centre of Buoyancy (and concurrently the AVS as below).
3) Most importantly, there must have been sufficient buoyancy in the [presumably flooded] hull such that time could pass for wave movements to right the yacht (because once she turtles, she may be as stable as she was upright (similar to a multihull)). Yacht designers conform to AVS and STIX (Angle of Vanishing Stability and Stability Index) numbers to determine the performance (righting speed) in heeling and capsize situations.
Serious question – Why is this story getting so much coverage? Genuinely I can’t remember the time a single accident got this much attention, its giving even that Titanic submarine implosion a run for its money.
sortofhappyish on
entirely co-incidental that an ex-HP contractor ran over (repeatedly) the OTHER guy that was about to gives states evidence about gigantic embezzlement/fraud in HP……
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The story that just won’t go away. Slow news weeks are the worst.
Pretty sure Italy does that for accidents all the time.
Some prankster has been out there and chucked a horses head in haven’t they.
Mad thing his co defendant in the US multi billion dollar case was killed the same week.🤔
All we need is for this story to somehow be tied into Jay Slater and the singularity can finally be achieved
I seem to remember reading that Italian prosecutors have a lot of power and have been known to use high visibility crimes for personal promotion.
This whole thing is 100% going to end up on some stats test about Bayesian inference
Headline:
>Potential homicide
Article body:
>potential manslaughter
This headline is purposefully fueling conspiracy theories. What they’re investigating is if the crew were reckless to the point of criminality, which seems quite likely IMO.
With both the defendants being killed on the same day, I think HP have hired Boeing’s hitmen.
I just heard all the bodies were In the same room. Which is a bit weird at 3 am.
Also the ships designer said it could never sink like that without lots of damage
Notwithstanding the misunderstood Italian legal system, which does now have manslaughter as a potential charge rather than homide (but don’t let that stop the press using “murder”). You could potentially prosecute Perini Navi, or the yacht operator(s), if you can demonstrate the yacht couldn’t right itself from turtle. In theory the weight distribution of the hull should mean that when capsized it naturally wants to turn back upright. But in practice, a few things have to happen:
1) The mainsail and any headsails cannot unfurl themselves (they’re stored in that thiccc mast and a furler on the bow) and create further resistance to righting.
2) The mast, radars, spreaders and stays cannot have counteracted righting of the hull (and that’s a lot of surface area creating resistance), and likewise all the shit above the centreline (extended cockpit, entertaining spaces, that massive solid bimini and any liferafts/watercraft) should have been low enough that they didn’t mess up the Centre of Gravity and Centre of Buoyancy (and concurrently the AVS as below).
3) Most importantly, there must have been sufficient buoyancy in the [presumably flooded] hull such that time could pass for wave movements to right the yacht (because once she turtles, she may be as stable as she was upright (similar to a multihull)). Yacht designers conform to AVS and STIX (Angle of Vanishing Stability and Stability Index) numbers to determine the performance (righting speed) in heeling and capsize situations.
Anyone interested in the detail, Yachting Monthly did a [great piece on boat statistics](https://www.yachtingmonthly.com/yacht-reviews/understand-boat-statistics-30154).
Serious question – Why is this story getting so much coverage? Genuinely I can’t remember the time a single accident got this much attention, its giving even that Titanic submarine implosion a run for its money.
entirely co-incidental that an ex-HP contractor ran over (repeatedly) the OTHER guy that was about to gives states evidence about gigantic embezzlement/fraud in HP……