Also to listen to cool music and eat nice food and enjoy yourself with the family, but that doesn’t get the same attention. It’s like they think the carnival episode of Bottom was a documentary.
MeanCustardCreme on
I went ~~Saturday and Sunday~~ Sunday and Monday last year. Lunch time on the Sunday was fairly relaxed in places and I enjoyed it for a couple of hours. However the majority of both days were pretty bad. It was basically a big hangout for roadmen deciding that Notting Hill was outwith the law, as they ran around in massive groups, bothering people, inhaling balloons, and getting smashed on Magnum tonic. Constantly throughout the day, I’d see people harass others, trying to antagonise and cause trouble. Most of the music was awful techno and the parade was boring, most of it just plain buses blaring drill.
There was a police presence but there’s not much they can do other than observe and turn a blind eye until they come across something that could be a major incident of some sort. The worst of it was, as a white guy, facing racism from young black men freely screaming obscenities in my face. It’s not a good place to be, and I won’t be going back.
Edit: Sorry, I meant Sun/Mon 🙂
limaconnect77 on
Light touch, they’re fucked. Heavy touch, also pilloried (but less so in certain parts of the press and on social media platforms like this one). Straddling the fence – “Met Police Dillydallying And Not Doing It’s Job.”
They even get fucked left, right, up and down for conducting preemptive intel ops.
djpolofish on
Wow this post is filled with very new accounts parroting the Telegraphs BS.
Like any major street festival it will attract criminals, but the Telegraph likes to stir the pot to make it seem like it’s nothing but a free for all.
Don’t avoid the carnival avoid the Telegraph and your life will be immeasurably better.
DarthFlowers on
admit.* That’s a crime against tense and it’s so common I’m becoming less literate as a result. Finna sue the general populace.
big event with millions of people means higher rate of crime?
no way!!!
tomorrow on the telegraph: “news just in, eating too much fast food correlates with being overweight!”
Plodderic on
The thing about Notting Hill Carnival is it’s big. Really big. You might think Glastonbury (210,000) is big but that’s peanuts compared to Notting Hill Carnival (2,000,000).
Every crime stat and policing cost stat about Notting Hill Carnival needs to be looked at through that lens, and for the Telegraph to have anything meaningful to say about crime and Notting Hill Carnival, it needs to make a comparison between the crimes that would normally happen among 2 million younger people on a summer weekend.
But they don’t. It’s moral panic – they know their readers don’t go and so they’re stirring the pot.
Don’t get me wrong, I’ve been to Carnival and some idiots treat it like Red Hour/the Purge (delete according to taste), but the question is whether they’d be doing that stuff at home instead of out on the street anyway.
Melodic_Duck1406 on
I white British male, middle aged, perfect target.
I was there a couple years ago, had an absolute blast, even into the night at nearby clubs.
Made to feel very welcome, didn’t see any issues, and my partner was grinning ear to ear the whole time.
It was a great day out, and a fantastic opportunity to learn about the current struggles of minority groups, while also engage in discussion about how class and wealth are also massive issues, and share my own stories of both racism (I have a mixed race kid) and class suppression – which were welcomed. Not derided.
I found the people to be some of the best I’ve ever met, and made friends for life.
Id thoroughly recommend it to anyone, but as with any event like this, there are always a few who will take the opportunity to commit crime.
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Also to listen to cool music and eat nice food and enjoy yourself with the family, but that doesn’t get the same attention. It’s like they think the carnival episode of Bottom was a documentary.
I went ~~Saturday and Sunday~~ Sunday and Monday last year. Lunch time on the Sunday was fairly relaxed in places and I enjoyed it for a couple of hours. However the majority of both days were pretty bad. It was basically a big hangout for roadmen deciding that Notting Hill was outwith the law, as they ran around in massive groups, bothering people, inhaling balloons, and getting smashed on Magnum tonic. Constantly throughout the day, I’d see people harass others, trying to antagonise and cause trouble. Most of the music was awful techno and the parade was boring, most of it just plain buses blaring drill.
There was a police presence but there’s not much they can do other than observe and turn a blind eye until they come across something that could be a major incident of some sort. The worst of it was, as a white guy, facing racism from young black men freely screaming obscenities in my face. It’s not a good place to be, and I won’t be going back.
Edit: Sorry, I meant Sun/Mon 🙂
Light touch, they’re fucked. Heavy touch, also pilloried (but less so in certain parts of the press and on social media platforms like this one). Straddling the fence – “Met Police Dillydallying And Not Doing It’s Job.”
They even get fucked left, right, up and down for conducting preemptive intel ops.
Wow this post is filled with very new accounts parroting the Telegraphs BS.
Like any major street festival it will attract criminals, but the Telegraph likes to stir the pot to make it seem like it’s nothing but a free for all.
Don’t avoid the carnival avoid the Telegraph and your life will be immeasurably better.
admit.* That’s a crime against tense and it’s so common I’m becoming less literate as a result. Finna sue the general populace.
[Really](https://x.com/sprinterfamily/status/1696554891114668423?s=46)?
No, I don’t believe it.
big event with millions of people means higher rate of crime?
no way!!!
tomorrow on the telegraph: “news just in, eating too much fast food correlates with being overweight!”
The thing about Notting Hill Carnival is it’s big. Really big. You might think Glastonbury (210,000) is big but that’s peanuts compared to Notting Hill Carnival (2,000,000).
Every crime stat and policing cost stat about Notting Hill Carnival needs to be looked at through that lens, and for the Telegraph to have anything meaningful to say about crime and Notting Hill Carnival, it needs to make a comparison between the crimes that would normally happen among 2 million younger people on a summer weekend.
But they don’t. It’s moral panic – they know their readers don’t go and so they’re stirring the pot.
Don’t get me wrong, I’ve been to Carnival and some idiots treat it like Red Hour/the Purge (delete according to taste), but the question is whether they’d be doing that stuff at home instead of out on the street anyway.
I white British male, middle aged, perfect target.
I was there a couple years ago, had an absolute blast, even into the night at nearby clubs.
Made to feel very welcome, didn’t see any issues, and my partner was grinning ear to ear the whole time.
It was a great day out, and a fantastic opportunity to learn about the current struggles of minority groups, while also engage in discussion about how class and wealth are also massive issues, and share my own stories of both racism (I have a mixed race kid) and class suppression – which were welcomed. Not derided.
I found the people to be some of the best I’ve ever met, and made friends for life.
Id thoroughly recommend it to anyone, but as with any event like this, there are always a few who will take the opportunity to commit crime.