> Polls cannot meaningfully measure enthusiasm, but there are other signs that Trump is losing steam. As Heather “Digby” Parton wrote Monday at Salon, she’s seeing “far fewer Trump signs out in the rural areas” than in years past. And, of course, Trump himself doesn’t seem to be doing too well. In his public appearances, he keeps ranting about the change in Democratic nominees, calling it a “coup” and an “overthrow” — the usual psychological projection from a man who really did attempt a coup to overthrow Biden’s presidency. For some reason, his attempt to “counterprogram” the first night of the DNC was a lackluster speech in front of a small group of people and some manufacturing equipment. It appears the 150 folks who showed up were struggling to stay awake as Trump talked and talked about nothing anyone cares about.
>
> . . .
>
> Trump’s entire appeal to his base was that he knows how to “trigger the liberals.” But if the liberals aren’t triggered anymore, what good is he to them? It is finally, after nine years of this trolling, reaching the point of that famous Onion article from 2001: “Marilyn Manson Now Going Door-To-Door Trying To Shock People.” This is a big shift, even from the last election. In 2020, MAGA types could still get a sadistic glee out of liberals, by refusing to follow public health guidelines and spreading the coronavirus. Biden won because people were exhausted and fearful, approaching their ballots with grim determination. But the whole election cycle was dominated by this trigger-the-liberals mentality, from the videos of right-wingers refusing to wear masks in public to, of course, the terrifying violence of January 6.
>
> With Harris as the nominee, however, you can feel Democratic voters unclenching. This is not a crowd that feels “triggered.” The mood is giddy. There’s a scent of hope in the air. There’s plenty of criticism of Trump, but it’s no longer coming from a place of cornered animals trying to survive. The tone towards that babbling old fascist is one of contempt. **Instead of flinching, Democrats are laughing in Trump’s face.**
WildYams on
I love that Kamala got a bigger turnout in Fiserv in Milwaukee tonight while her own convention was going on in Chicago than Trump got at that same arena last month for his acceptance of the GOP nomination at their own convention. Kamala literally more than doubled Trump’s crowd size tonight.
Mike_Pences_Mother on
>In 2020, MAGA types could still get a sadistic glee out of liberals, by refusing to follow public health guidelines and spreading the coronavirus. Biden won because people were exhausted and fearful, approaching their ballots with grim determination. But the whole election cycle was dominated by this trigger-the-liberals mentality, from the videos of right-wingers refusing to wear masks in public to, of course, the terrifying violence of January 6.
Speaking of January 6th and voting. I took some liberties with the original:
Remember, remember, the 5th of November,
Because of the January 6th treasonous plot
I see no reason
Why that treason
Should ever be forgot.
Donald Trump, ’twas his intent
To stop the vote and watch them kill Mike Pence
Thousands of supporters did go
to Congress to overthrow
But thanks to the brave, the coup was stopped
But many a life was lost.
Those who did this dastardly deed
Do holler – Back the Blue
But it was the blue who paid that day
because a liar and thief they did follow and heed
crystal_castles on
I hope Trump becomes afraid to say anything.
Everything he says is fake news:
– Biden is upset
– Trump can only save the WSJ hostage
– He almost died in a helicopter with Jerry Brown.
– He has more ppl at his rallies.
Permitty on
The fake polls are the ones you see on X where the bots put trump in a 74% lead. Laugh Out Loud.
> "Consistently what you've seen in 2016 and 2020, is that the media uses fake polls to drive down Republican turnout and to create dissension and conflict within Republican voters," Trump's running mate, Sen. JD Vance of Ohio, said on Fox News Sunday.
> Polls cannot meaningfully measure enthusiasm, but there are other signs that Trump is losing steam.
Fske polls, ay, Jaydee? Everybody secretly hates Kamala and secretly loves Trump? That is like the most frustrating romantic sitcom ever, where the main couple secretly likes each other but can’t tell each other.
Illustrious_Map_3247 on
The polls are fake! Trump/Vance have most of the sun belt, rust belt, and Midwest locked down! I really think they should be targeting Oregon, Hawaii, and DC. Just go for a clean sweep.
Dariawasright on
That’s right, everything is fake. /S
bebejeebies on
I mean how hard would it be to Truman Show him at this point? We could do it. “Sir, you won. We are to report to the White House.” And then we could put him in one of those dementia villages that are “open communities” with stores and libraries, movies… everything like real life except everyone who works in them are actually caregivers, doctors, nurses and psychologists and the buses don’t go anywhere. We could build one where he’s “president” but when he sundowns everyone around him are caregivers. Even the “agents” posing as his secret service.
Danominator on
Those comments aren’t for us or for normal people. It’s to get the base ready to commit violence when they lose. They are telling them not to believe their lying eyes and they are eager to listen.
Rambos_Magnum_Dong on
Polls don’t mean votes. Like Obama said, “Don’t boo, vote.” Because if you don’t, Trump wins.
ABC_Dildos_Inc on
“Massive explosion of AI videos”.
They’ll continue to cry “AI” on the day Harris is elected and insist that they are actually in charge.
Ryan1980123 on
But if the polls were favorable for republicans it be the best thing ever.
Joeguy87721 on
JD who ?
Rawrnerdrage on
“Trump, meanwhile, will only be remembered fondly by the most deplorable people. But he refuses to go away, even though his schtick is growing ever more tiresome. He’s struggling to recapture the shock value that once came so easily to him because he is saddled with severe personality disorders that allow him to say the vile things decent human beings are incapable of. He’s even tried leveling sexually explicit smears at her, but it was greeted by liberals and the press with a shrug. Trump being the worst isn’t titillating anymore. He is, to quote a statement from the Harris campaign, ‘old and quite weird.'”
This adequately summarizes Trump. It’s not complete, not comprehensive, but it covers most of it.
Moist_Albatross_5434 on
Pray for JV Vance’s couch over the next week or so.
law5097 on
trumpers have been using crow size for years to measure popularity, hope they stay consistent now
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A bit from the commentary:
> Polls cannot meaningfully measure enthusiasm, but there are other signs that Trump is losing steam. As Heather “Digby” Parton wrote Monday at Salon, she’s seeing “far fewer Trump signs out in the rural areas” than in years past. And, of course, Trump himself doesn’t seem to be doing too well. In his public appearances, he keeps ranting about the change in Democratic nominees, calling it a “coup” and an “overthrow” — the usual psychological projection from a man who really did attempt a coup to overthrow Biden’s presidency. For some reason, his attempt to “counterprogram” the first night of the DNC was a lackluster speech in front of a small group of people and some manufacturing equipment. It appears the 150 folks who showed up were struggling to stay awake as Trump talked and talked about nothing anyone cares about.
>
> . . .
>
> Trump’s entire appeal to his base was that he knows how to “trigger the liberals.” But if the liberals aren’t triggered anymore, what good is he to them? It is finally, after nine years of this trolling, reaching the point of that famous Onion article from 2001: “Marilyn Manson Now Going Door-To-Door Trying To Shock People.” This is a big shift, even from the last election. In 2020, MAGA types could still get a sadistic glee out of liberals, by refusing to follow public health guidelines and spreading the coronavirus. Biden won because people were exhausted and fearful, approaching their ballots with grim determination. But the whole election cycle was dominated by this trigger-the-liberals mentality, from the videos of right-wingers refusing to wear masks in public to, of course, the terrifying violence of January 6.
>
> With Harris as the nominee, however, you can feel Democratic voters unclenching. This is not a crowd that feels “triggered.” The mood is giddy. There’s a scent of hope in the air. There’s plenty of criticism of Trump, but it’s no longer coming from a place of cornered animals trying to survive. The tone towards that babbling old fascist is one of contempt. **Instead of flinching, Democrats are laughing in Trump’s face.**
I love that Kamala got a bigger turnout in Fiserv in Milwaukee tonight while her own convention was going on in Chicago than Trump got at that same arena last month for his acceptance of the GOP nomination at their own convention. Kamala literally more than doubled Trump’s crowd size tonight.
>In 2020, MAGA types could still get a sadistic glee out of liberals, by refusing to follow public health guidelines and spreading the coronavirus. Biden won because people were exhausted and fearful, approaching their ballots with grim determination. But the whole election cycle was dominated by this trigger-the-liberals mentality, from the videos of right-wingers refusing to wear masks in public to, of course, the terrifying violence of January 6.
Speaking of January 6th and voting. I took some liberties with the original:
Remember, remember, the 5th of November,
Because of the January 6th treasonous plot
I see no reason
Why that treason
Should ever be forgot.
Donald Trump, ’twas his intent
To stop the vote and watch them kill Mike Pence
Thousands of supporters did go
to Congress to overthrow
But thanks to the brave, the coup was stopped
But many a life was lost.
Those who did this dastardly deed
Do holler – Back the Blue
But it was the blue who paid that day
because a liar and thief they did follow and heed
I hope Trump becomes afraid to say anything.
Everything he says is fake news:
– Biden is upset
– Trump can only save the WSJ hostage
– He almost died in a helicopter with Jerry Brown.
– He has more ppl at his rallies.
The fake polls are the ones you see on X where the bots put trump in a 74% lead. Laugh Out Loud.
This is the best tl;dr I could make, [original](https://www.salon.com/2024/08/21/jd-vances-complaints-about-fake-polls-eviscerated-by-massive-explosion-of-energy-at-dnc/) reduced by 93%. (I’m a bot)
*****
> The Democratic National Convention, so far, has maintained the organic energy of a champagne bottle being uncorked -and that momentum appears to be causing the Trump campaign to short-circuit.
> "Consistently what you've seen in 2016 and 2020, is that the media uses fake polls to drive down Republican turnout and to create dissension and conflict within Republican voters," Trump's running mate, Sen. JD Vance of Ohio, said on Fox News Sunday.
> Polls cannot meaningfully measure enthusiasm, but there are other signs that Trump is losing steam.
*****
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Fske polls, ay, Jaydee? Everybody secretly hates Kamala and secretly loves Trump? That is like the most frustrating romantic sitcom ever, where the main couple secretly likes each other but can’t tell each other.
The polls are fake! Trump/Vance have most of the sun belt, rust belt, and Midwest locked down! I really think they should be targeting Oregon, Hawaii, and DC. Just go for a clean sweep.
That’s right, everything is fake. /S
I mean how hard would it be to Truman Show him at this point? We could do it. “Sir, you won. We are to report to the White House.” And then we could put him in one of those dementia villages that are “open communities” with stores and libraries, movies… everything like real life except everyone who works in them are actually caregivers, doctors, nurses and psychologists and the buses don’t go anywhere. We could build one where he’s “president” but when he sundowns everyone around him are caregivers. Even the “agents” posing as his secret service.
Those comments aren’t for us or for normal people. It’s to get the base ready to commit violence when they lose. They are telling them not to believe their lying eyes and they are eager to listen.
Polls don’t mean votes. Like Obama said, “Don’t boo, vote.” Because if you don’t, Trump wins.
“Massive explosion of AI videos”.
They’ll continue to cry “AI” on the day Harris is elected and insist that they are actually in charge.
But if the polls were favorable for republicans it be the best thing ever.
JD who ?
“Trump, meanwhile, will only be remembered fondly by the most deplorable people. But he refuses to go away, even though his schtick is growing ever more tiresome. He’s struggling to recapture the shock value that once came so easily to him because he is saddled with severe personality disorders that allow him to say the vile things decent human beings are incapable of. He’s even tried leveling sexually explicit smears at her, but it was greeted by liberals and the press with a shrug. Trump being the worst isn’t titillating anymore. He is, to quote a statement from the Harris campaign, ‘old and quite weird.'”
This adequately summarizes Trump. It’s not complete, not comprehensive, but it covers most of it.
Pray for JV Vance’s couch over the next week or so.
trumpers have been using crow size for years to measure popularity, hope they stay consistent now
He’s a pathetic little man just like trump.
Oh God we’re there any survivors at the DNC?