They know the kind of men that run the states, there are way too many rural states that would happily take the rights away from women and then jail them when they had to seek healthcare elsewhere.
Eat_Your_Paisley on
Shocking no one
Im_Ur_Huckleberry77 on
BuT fReEdUmb
Edit: I’m being sarcastic
gorobotkillkill on
Women aren’t idiots. They’re also humans. And, you know, they don’t want to get fucked over by your trash policies.
That’s some lessons you’ll never learn, Republicans.
81305 on
I don’t want my balls to be left to the states. It is bizarre that there are states that step between a woman and her doctor. It’s beyond ate up.
waddee on
You don’t say
DramaticWesley on
Because some states have shown they will take women back to the 1920’s, if they are lucky.
mydogislife_ on
Women need to show up in full force this November & vote blue. I know I will again.
Aretirednurse on
We are angry and will vote this fall for reproductive freedom.
SpectralTh1ef on
It would be nice to see Dems push back on the Trump/GOP narrative of leaving abortion to the states. In reality, only a handful of states allow for people to vote on the issue via ballot referendums. Other states had bans that immediately went into place after Dobbs, bans that in many cases were on the books for decades.
It’s not a case of letting the people decide. In many cases, states have placed abortion out of reach for the people and even for legislators.
aslan_is_on_the_move on
“Leave abortion to the states” means “allow states to completely ban abortion”. People don’t want abortion banned, even if it’s only in a patchwork of states.
bayleysgal1996 on
Yeah, cause that usually doesn’t work out too well for us
forceblast on
But Trump says “everyone” wanted it moved back to the states. He wouldn’t lie, would he!? /s
juniper_berry_crunch on
It makes little difference if it’s a big group of strangers (country) making decisions over my body or a smaller group of strangers (a state) doing so. Neither have ANY business doing that. Trump attempting to cast this as some sort of weird better way is offensive, misogynistic, and pure BS.
walrus_tuskss on
But did anybody ask what the men wanted? Huh?!
ShrimpieAC on
What? But Trump told me that all women wanted it left up to the states. He even told me that I wanted it to be left to the states.
Talkingmice on
r/noshitsherlock
Sunshinehappyfeet on
Well, no shit.
Men making decisions on the female anatomy . The GOP couldn’t find a G-spot with a effing map.
Keep government out my uterus.
Vote Blue.
XinWay on
you get to live in what you vote for, how about not actively voting against your own interests
Avocadobaguette on
Women don’t want to have to base their decisions on where to work, live, and vacation based on where they have bodily autonomy. Basic human rights shouldn’t be left up to majority rule, and you shouldn’t lose your autonomy just because you crossed a state line.
I had a high risk pregnancy and it’s crazy to me to think that if I were pregnant again today, I wouldn’t be able to go on business trips to Texas, wouldn’t be able to visit parents in Florida, etc etc, because if something went wrong, I wouldn’t want to die.
wildcat_abe on
Abortion = healthcare. Are states legislating cancer care differentially? They shouldn’t be legislating reproductive healthcare differentially either. HELL YES, I oppose my state/federal government deciding what healthcare I receive.
Mec26 on
No one wants their rights to be patchwork. They just want their rights.
altsuperego on
I know it’s a very personal experience, but I want to hear more stories like Amanda Zurawski to drive the point home about how cruel these laws are.
Mec26 on
If a few states had ball-kicking machines that kicked random men in the balls so hard that men died every year from the sheer physical trauma of the ball destruction, men would also want nationwide protection. Imagine the men left infertile who wanted kids, or who almost bled out but the ambulance came just in time. Maybe we would blame the men for having such unprotected balls. It must have been God’s plan for them to be kicked. We could debate in churches if it was allowable to protect the balls if it was for X or Y reason. We could castrate men for no reason other than to save them from the ball kickers, because stopping the ball kickers would be to go against God’s plan.*
Or we could just enact a law saying no giant ball kicking machines. Nationwide. You want to get your balls kicked, you sign a consent form first.
*Catholic and other religious hospitals/doctors would/will remove fallopian tubes without medical reason, because just removing an ectopic pregnancy is against their religious doctrine. So in order to appease their priests, they remove working parts of the woman’s reproductive system, whether or not she wants to lose those parts. Secular treatment guidelines will usually save the tube and allow the mother to try again for a baby if she wants. Lose both tubes you are 100% infertile.
nonsensestuff on
It really should not be on the States. A woman could’ve become pregnant in a State where it’s legal and then be vacationing in a state where it’s illegal and suddenly be at risk for death or other serious complications, simply because the law is different there.
Laws about something that impacts the healthcare of so many people should not be up to the State. All Americans should experience the same rights when it comes to women’s healthcare.
TwoBirdsEnter on
You don’t say. “Leave it to the states” is always unacceptable vis a vis human rights.
ActivelySleeping on
The Republicans don’t want to leave it up to the states either. They want a nation-wide ban.
EncryptDN on
Water is wet
TraditionalEvent8317 on
But Trump said EVERYONE wanted this! /s
Davajita on
This bizarre new talking point by Trump that everyone wanted Roe overturned and democrats and republicans both wanted abortion put back to the states might be the most insane thing he’s tried yet. It’s one thing to lie constantly about things like national statistics, but it’s a first for him to try to lie to people about what they wanted. I guess he’s too stupid to realize it doesn’t work the same way as made up immigration numbers.
Lumpy_Ad7002 on
Survey: blacks oppose leaving slavery to the states
Seraphynas on
Then why did so many women vote for Republicans over the past 50 years??
It’s not like the Republican Party was trying to hide their stance on abortion, they said it loud and proud for 50 fucking years.
You’ve got women going to the ER and being told to go wait in the parking lot until she’s crashing – and yet, Republicans keep winning elections in those states.
White_C4 on
Legally, abortion is not constitutionally protected. So that’s why it makes sense the issue got pushed back to the states. The issue is more nuanced than Reddit makes it out to be. How abortion should be regulated is more like a spectrum where one end is absolute ban and the other end is abortion completely legal in every scenario even up to birth. Most Americans are somewhere in the middle, where they allow exceptions, early abortion, and pregnancy issues. From my experience talking to others, they oppose 3rd trimester abortion if it’s just done for the sake of just doing it.
Putting it back to the states gives more flexibility in regulation rather than one static bill across all. States should let abortion happen, but let it be regulated the smart way. Most Americans support abortion to some degree but that is not reflective of how some states are handling it. Hence why the expansion of seats in house of representatives is necessary.
mixamaxim on
When Vance or Trump is on national TV saying “look, the right thing to do is to let states decide for themselves,” a reporter, on camera, needs to reply “Then why shouldn’t *individuals* just decide for themselves? Why do you draw a line *there?”*
Wellgoodmornin on
Ummm I don’t think you guys have been paying attention. Women don’t care about this. Trump and Vance told me so.
xyzyxzyxzyxyzyxzxy on
I mean yeah, if you live in a filthy shithole that belongs to the degenerate Bible Belt or so then you really can kiss your rights good-bye. Fuck those fundamentalists.
random_user_428134 on
Some women
HomeNew6409 on
How about we leave it up to the woman who is actually pregnant?
It’s no one else’s business.
henryptung on
Well, yeah. Freedoms like bodily autonomy should be generally guaranteed, not “free” for states to restrict.
rocknrollboise on
Wow, there are more abortions happening today than there were pre-Roe! What does that tell you? Again, prohibition fails us.
YakiVegas on
I hope every woman who can, votes.
KnownAd523 on
I can’t imagine why. It will be very interesting post-election to see how the various coalitions voted, and what impact those votes had on down ballot races and vice versa. We have women’s reproductive rights on the ballot, democracy on the ballot, the economy, immigration, climate change and on and on. It’s hard to see how anyone who cares about any of the aforementioned topics could vote for the Trump/Harris dumpster ticket.
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They know the kind of men that run the states, there are way too many rural states that would happily take the rights away from women and then jail them when they had to seek healthcare elsewhere.
Shocking no one
BuT fReEdUmb
Edit: I’m being sarcastic
Women aren’t idiots. They’re also humans. And, you know, they don’t want to get fucked over by your trash policies.
That’s some lessons you’ll never learn, Republicans.
I don’t want my balls to be left to the states. It is bizarre that there are states that step between a woman and her doctor. It’s beyond ate up.
You don’t say
Because some states have shown they will take women back to the 1920’s, if they are lucky.
Women need to show up in full force this November & vote blue. I know I will again.
We are angry and will vote this fall for reproductive freedom.
It would be nice to see Dems push back on the Trump/GOP narrative of leaving abortion to the states. In reality, only a handful of states allow for people to vote on the issue via ballot referendums. Other states had bans that immediately went into place after Dobbs, bans that in many cases were on the books for decades.
It’s not a case of letting the people decide. In many cases, states have placed abortion out of reach for the people and even for legislators.
“Leave abortion to the states” means “allow states to completely ban abortion”. People don’t want abortion banned, even if it’s only in a patchwork of states.
Yeah, cause that usually doesn’t work out too well for us
But Trump says “everyone” wanted it moved back to the states. He wouldn’t lie, would he!? /s
It makes little difference if it’s a big group of strangers (country) making decisions over my body or a smaller group of strangers (a state) doing so. Neither have ANY business doing that. Trump attempting to cast this as some sort of weird better way is offensive, misogynistic, and pure BS.
But did anybody ask what the men wanted? Huh?!
What? But Trump told me that all women wanted it left up to the states. He even told me that I wanted it to be left to the states.
r/noshitsherlock
Well, no shit.
Men making decisions on the female anatomy . The GOP couldn’t find a G-spot with a effing map.
Keep government out my uterus.
Vote Blue.
you get to live in what you vote for, how about not actively voting against your own interests
Women don’t want to have to base their decisions on where to work, live, and vacation based on where they have bodily autonomy. Basic human rights shouldn’t be left up to majority rule, and you shouldn’t lose your autonomy just because you crossed a state line.
I had a high risk pregnancy and it’s crazy to me to think that if I were pregnant again today, I wouldn’t be able to go on business trips to Texas, wouldn’t be able to visit parents in Florida, etc etc, because if something went wrong, I wouldn’t want to die.
Abortion = healthcare. Are states legislating cancer care differentially? They shouldn’t be legislating reproductive healthcare differentially either. HELL YES, I oppose my state/federal government deciding what healthcare I receive.
No one wants their rights to be patchwork. They just want their rights.
I know it’s a very personal experience, but I want to hear more stories like Amanda Zurawski to drive the point home about how cruel these laws are.
If a few states had ball-kicking machines that kicked random men in the balls so hard that men died every year from the sheer physical trauma of the ball destruction, men would also want nationwide protection. Imagine the men left infertile who wanted kids, or who almost bled out but the ambulance came just in time. Maybe we would blame the men for having such unprotected balls. It must have been God’s plan for them to be kicked. We could debate in churches if it was allowable to protect the balls if it was for X or Y reason. We could castrate men for no reason other than to save them from the ball kickers, because stopping the ball kickers would be to go against God’s plan.*
Or we could just enact a law saying no giant ball kicking machines. Nationwide. You want to get your balls kicked, you sign a consent form first.
*Catholic and other religious hospitals/doctors would/will remove fallopian tubes without medical reason, because just removing an ectopic pregnancy is against their religious doctrine. So in order to appease their priests, they remove working parts of the woman’s reproductive system, whether or not she wants to lose those parts. Secular treatment guidelines will usually save the tube and allow the mother to try again for a baby if she wants. Lose both tubes you are 100% infertile.
It really should not be on the States. A woman could’ve become pregnant in a State where it’s legal and then be vacationing in a state where it’s illegal and suddenly be at risk for death or other serious complications, simply because the law is different there.
Laws about something that impacts the healthcare of so many people should not be up to the State. All Americans should experience the same rights when it comes to women’s healthcare.
You don’t say. “Leave it to the states” is always unacceptable vis a vis human rights.
The Republicans don’t want to leave it up to the states either. They want a nation-wide ban.
Water is wet
But Trump said EVERYONE wanted this! /s
This bizarre new talking point by Trump that everyone wanted Roe overturned and democrats and republicans both wanted abortion put back to the states might be the most insane thing he’s tried yet. It’s one thing to lie constantly about things like national statistics, but it’s a first for him to try to lie to people about what they wanted. I guess he’s too stupid to realize it doesn’t work the same way as made up immigration numbers.
Survey: blacks oppose leaving slavery to the states
Then why did so many women vote for Republicans over the past 50 years??
It’s not like the Republican Party was trying to hide their stance on abortion, they said it loud and proud for 50 fucking years.
You’ve got women going to the ER and being told to go wait in the parking lot until she’s crashing – and yet, Republicans keep winning elections in those states.
Legally, abortion is not constitutionally protected. So that’s why it makes sense the issue got pushed back to the states. The issue is more nuanced than Reddit makes it out to be. How abortion should be regulated is more like a spectrum where one end is absolute ban and the other end is abortion completely legal in every scenario even up to birth. Most Americans are somewhere in the middle, where they allow exceptions, early abortion, and pregnancy issues. From my experience talking to others, they oppose 3rd trimester abortion if it’s just done for the sake of just doing it.
Putting it back to the states gives more flexibility in regulation rather than one static bill across all. States should let abortion happen, but let it be regulated the smart way. Most Americans support abortion to some degree but that is not reflective of how some states are handling it. Hence why the expansion of seats in house of representatives is necessary.
When Vance or Trump is on national TV saying “look, the right thing to do is to let states decide for themselves,” a reporter, on camera, needs to reply “Then why shouldn’t *individuals* just decide for themselves? Why do you draw a line *there?”*
Ummm I don’t think you guys have been paying attention. Women don’t care about this. Trump and Vance told me so.
I mean yeah, if you live in a filthy shithole that belongs to the degenerate Bible Belt or so then you really can kiss your rights good-bye. Fuck those fundamentalists.
Some women
How about we leave it up to the woman who is actually pregnant?
It’s no one else’s business.
Well, yeah. Freedoms like bodily autonomy should be generally guaranteed, not “free” for states to restrict.
Wow, there are more abortions happening today than there were pre-Roe! What does that tell you? Again, prohibition fails us.
I hope every woman who can, votes.
I can’t imagine why. It will be very interesting post-election to see how the various coalitions voted, and what impact those votes had on down ballot races and vice versa. We have women’s reproductive rights on the ballot, democracy on the ballot, the economy, immigration, climate change and on and on. It’s hard to see how anyone who cares about any of the aforementioned topics could vote for the Trump/Harris dumpster ticket.