Ataturd belongs there too. He have successfully stripped Turkey of consequences
poooooopppppppppp on
Fuck the pashes (and the Ottoman Empire in general)
lmsoa941 on
I love how our genocide is used so stupidly to push agendas for no particular reason at all.
The key word here is “Killed”. By the same logic, if we look at the results of Stalin and Mao, who did not directly kill 23 and 78 million, but their numbers are inflated here, then Enver Pashas and hitlers number should be inflated as well. But it isn’t. Hitler’s inflated numbers reach 31 million killed.
Stalin’s number is also taking in the highest number according to old western sources (which includes the famines and war deaths), and not the revised ones. While the “Enver Pasha killed” does not even take the highest number of number for the entire genocide of Armenians, Greeks, Yezidis, and Assyrians, does not take into consideration the subsequent massacre deaths by the Islamic army, the war deaths, nor the deaths caused by famine in Turkey to Turks as well. Or maybe add the numbers of deaths caused by the failed military operations that led to thousands of Turks freezing to death.
While the 78 million figurehead (which doesn’t even stand in western right wing historian numbers like Frank Dikötter who used population data to estimate 45 million) blame the 36 million deaths caused by famine on the same level as an **actual fucking genocide**.
Or (for another example), Bush would be also included in this list, as his actions resulted in the deaths of 1 million Iraqis directly, not including famine caused by the unjust invasion, including the deaths caused by him in Afghanistan, and all the deaths caused by the supposed “War on terror” with an estimated 3.6 million-4.5 million indirect deaths, And rising.
Which puts the whole chart to question, since you then realize “It’s not so easy to calculate how many people a particular person killed”.
Why diminish what happened to us, to push an agenda that we have no part of?
T-nash on
Who exactly are the 23m kills under Stalin? Asking out of pure ignorance.
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Dazzling-Leave-4915 on
Its very sad that so many people still like Enver in Turkey.
He killed so many innocent Armenians.Not only Armenians but he killed many Turks in his unnecessary war with the soviets.
Constantine_XIV on
I understand why Allied leadership let Tojo take full responsibility for Hirohito after the war.
However, why anyone would still want to perpetuate that bullshit in 2024 is completely beyond me.
Hirohito was a war criminal and deserved to hang as much as anyone convicted at Nuremberg.
Key_Addition1225 on
Of course Turks admire the pashes. Stalin wasn’t great either. He replaced Azeris in Artsakh and killed many Armenians too.
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Mk7GTI818 on
Stalin is still killing people with his map drawing.
Ok-Neighborhood-1517 on
I typed an incredibly stupid comment thinking enver just meant the Armenians. The only thing I agree with that comment is the fact Talaat and Djamal should also be on there. Considering the fact the ottoman government was a triumvirate of the three. And thus all three agreed with and planned the three main ottoman genocides. Please feel free to laugh at me for my stupidity, I fucking deserve it.
ero_sennin_21 on
Wait, the 27 million Soviet citizens that died in WWII, do not count for Hitler? Only a part of them counts in his numbers?
Complete-Garbage-714 on
This is the biggest BS I’ve ever seen… Hitler Killed 27 million Soviet people alone… if counting Poles, Jews, Yugoslavs and this number get much higher… Stalin numbers are also very disputed, it doesn’t match with Soviet demographic indexes from the time
deejayapster on
Is having a mustache one of the prerequisites for being a raging genocidal cunt?
chiludo67 on
Interesting. All leftists.
garenzy on
Counting the famines for Stalin and Mao but not the peoples killed during WWII for Hitler is an interesting choice. Also where are Genghis Khan’s numbers?
nej6rfu on
Crazy xp
newuser0087 on
How many people did American democracy killed?
Enjj-sn on
The famine inclusions are very arbitrary, shouldn’t Churchill be included for the Bengali famine than?
selozt on
This is a type of Capitalist propoganda .It is liar .Stalin and Mao are not Hitler.
plenfiru on
Benyamin Netanyahu works very hard to top that list.
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Ataturd belongs there too. He have successfully stripped Turkey of consequences
Fuck the pashes (and the Ottoman Empire in general)
I love how our genocide is used so stupidly to push agendas for no particular reason at all.
The key word here is “Killed”. By the same logic, if we look at the results of Stalin and Mao, who did not directly kill 23 and 78 million, but their numbers are inflated here, then Enver Pashas and hitlers number should be inflated as well. But it isn’t. Hitler’s inflated numbers reach 31 million killed.
Stalin’s number is also taking in the highest number according to old western sources (which includes the famines and war deaths), and not the revised ones. While the “Enver Pasha killed” does not even take the highest number of number for the entire genocide of Armenians, Greeks, Yezidis, and Assyrians, does not take into consideration the subsequent massacre deaths by the Islamic army, the war deaths, nor the deaths caused by famine in Turkey to Turks as well. Or maybe add the numbers of deaths caused by the failed military operations that led to thousands of Turks freezing to death.
While the 78 million figurehead (which doesn’t even stand in western right wing historian numbers like Frank Dikötter who used population data to estimate 45 million) blame the 36 million deaths caused by famine on the same level as an **actual fucking genocide**.
Or (for another example), Bush would be also included in this list, as his actions resulted in the deaths of 1 million Iraqis directly, not including famine caused by the unjust invasion, including the deaths caused by him in Afghanistan, and all the deaths caused by the supposed “War on terror” with an estimated 3.6 million-4.5 million indirect deaths, And rising.
Which puts the whole chart to question, since you then realize “It’s not so easy to calculate how many people a particular person killed”.
Why diminish what happened to us, to push an agenda that we have no part of?
Who exactly are the 23m kills under Stalin? Asking out of pure ignorance.
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Its very sad that so many people still like Enver in Turkey.
He killed so many innocent Armenians.Not only Armenians but he killed many Turks in his unnecessary war with the soviets.
I understand why Allied leadership let Tojo take full responsibility for Hirohito after the war.
However, why anyone would still want to perpetuate that bullshit in 2024 is completely beyond me.
Hirohito was a war criminal and deserved to hang as much as anyone convicted at Nuremberg.
Of course Turks admire the pashes. Stalin wasn’t great either. He replaced Azeris in Artsakh and killed many Armenians too.
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Stalin is still killing people with his map drawing.
I typed an incredibly stupid comment thinking enver just meant the Armenians. The only thing I agree with that comment is the fact Talaat and Djamal should also be on there. Considering the fact the ottoman government was a triumvirate of the three. And thus all three agreed with and planned the three main ottoman genocides. Please feel free to laugh at me for my stupidity, I fucking deserve it.
Wait, the 27 million Soviet citizens that died in WWII, do not count for Hitler? Only a part of them counts in his numbers?
This is the biggest BS I’ve ever seen… Hitler Killed 27 million Soviet people alone… if counting Poles, Jews, Yugoslavs and this number get much higher… Stalin numbers are also very disputed, it doesn’t match with Soviet demographic indexes from the time
Is having a mustache one of the prerequisites for being a raging genocidal cunt?
Interesting. All leftists.
Counting the famines for Stalin and Mao but not the peoples killed during WWII for Hitler is an interesting choice. Also where are Genghis Khan’s numbers?
Crazy xp
How many people did American democracy killed?
The famine inclusions are very arbitrary, shouldn’t Churchill be included for the Bengali famine than?
This is a type of Capitalist propoganda .It is liar .Stalin and Mao are not Hitler.
Benyamin Netanyahu works very hard to top that list.