We’ve hit the point of a transphobia panic where they’re going after masculine cis women in a bid to spread their hate. Which was the inevitable endpoint of this evil little movement. Unless you’ve got designated genital inspectors, butch women, muscular women, ugly women, etc are going to be attacked unprovoked for not adhering to some cliched gender stereotype, when some wound up loon goes “hey, are you a guy, you shouldn’t be here?”
ShoddyPreparation on
TERF brain rot is real. The poor woman is literally a born biological woman from a country where transitioning is outlawed and has a average boxing record for someone at that level. They are just looking for shite to get their followers mad.
Genetically gifted for sure. But if we want to play that game you can point at countless male and female athletes though history who where just built different that gave them a physical edge of others in a particular sport.
Smoked_Eels on
The lie is out there.
It’s scary, that’s its impossible to shut it down, too.
Millions of people are talking as if she’s trans, and they won’t be told otherwise.
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Historical-Hat8326 on
Italian fighter did not fancy the fight.
I haven’t seen as fine an example of Mike Tyson’s adage. Italian had a plan until she got punched in the face.
Not buying the trans thing, unless Algeria has liberalized and didn’t tell anyone.
CurrencyDesperate286 on
I feel very sorry for the boxer. The commentary around her has been awful and ignorant, regardless of what the rules around participation should be.
I did enjoy someone asking Amy how she’d like to fight Khelif and being told that Amy did fight her… and beat her lol
The fact is a lot of mediocre men can do well in women’s sports. That she saying Imane Khelif isn’t a great fighter but yet be got to the Olympics only proves the point Khelif is getting their on strength advance and not on skill.
Icy-Lab-2016 on
Transphobia was always going to target women who aren’t pretty or feminine enough, and also very often non-white women.
YoshikTK on
Simple solution, remove gender separation and go for free for all. Gender is a spectrum, so dividing people into binary baskets is transphobic and shouldn’t have a place in our open society.
Serious-Percentage16 on
Wow, in this thread literally EVERYONE agrees, and case closed? Comments are not moderated by any chance? 😀
vidic17 on
She was unfortunately banned in the past due to her testosterone levels This is what many have focused on but the out pooring of hate towards her in my opinion is not right.
DeKrieg on
The whole circus is basically a pissing match between the IBA and IOC.
Just to clarify the IBA was the foremost organisation for amateur and olympic boxing but after years of corruption the olympics officially cut ties with them in 2023 and a new organization called World Boxing has been making moves to try and replace the IBA as the official olympics boxing federation
The IBA which performed the test and disqualified her from the 2023 world championship have kept the results confidential aside from stating it was not a testosterone test (they are claiming now they tested twice once in 2022 but the tournament had ended so they couldnt disqualify her and again in 2023) which has directly fed into the brainrot that set social media off in such a huge way today.
By keeping the test confidential they’ve put the IOC (and by association new boxing organization World Boxing) on the backfoot because they cannot just simply repeat the test or dismiss it because it’s an unknown and continues to be an unknown. Essentially they’ve created this situation where it looks like no vetting of any kind was performed and an absolute shitstorm of social media misinformation.
You know its a pissing match because this is the official 2nd statement from the IBA today
“Further to the decisions made above, and knowingly allowing Imane Khelif to compete, **WORLD BOXING** whose sole purpose of existence is to support the Olympic movement, has equally endorsed and reinforced ineligible athletes to compete in their very own recently announced events.
Alarmingly, the **WORLD BOXING 2024 USA Boxing International Invitational tournament** saw Khelif compete in the finals on the 16^(th) April 2024, with a further outing that took place during the **Eindhoven Box Cup**, supported by **WORLD BOXING** that took place on the 18^(th) May 2024.
We absolutely do not understand why any organisation would put a boxer at risk with what could bring a potential serious injury within the ‘Field of Play’ (FOP). The main role of the referee in the ring is to manage the boxer’s safety at all times. How is this reasonably practicable when a boxer fails to meet the eligibility criteria to compete?
The IBA will never support any boxing bouts between the genders, as the organization puts the safety and well-being of our athletes first. We are protecting our women and their rights to compete in the ring against equal rivals, and we will defend and support them in all instances; their hopes and dreams must never be taken away by organisations unwilling to do the right thing under difficult circumstances.”
It just melts into an attack on World Boxing and the Olympics, this whole situation is just an excuse for them to sling shit at their rivals.
therobohourhalfhour on
Are they’re just like a lot of people want to see a woman beaten by a man?
Traditional-Map2728 on
This by far the most informative video i have watched on this topic.
Am I right in thinking that she’s born a woman, identifies as a woman, passed all the tests etc. to confirm that and people are just getting angry because she’s got a more masculine build and is powerful ?
There’s nothing she or the IOC has done wrong if so and the people complaining have no proper basis for doing so.
rugbygooner on
Get ready for another shitstorm tomorrow, as Taiwanese boxer Lin Yu-Ting will also have the far right loons and gullible idiots out against her.
The IBA also disqualified her for failing some unknown criteria at the same event they did it to Khelif. Worth noting that the IBA is a Russian controlled agency with an obvious agenda against the Olympics after being removed from running boxing at the Olympics due to corruption issues.
originalface1 on
Does anyone else feel like right wing conspiracy is at an absolute boiling point? People in all walks of life seem to be so miserable that all they can look for is a minority to spit bile at, even when it’s not true.
Absolute losers.
JoooneBug on
My hot take is that Melloni paid the fighter to give up the fight and make her statement, so that Melloni can further her right wing agenda in Italy and gain more support.
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We’ve hit the point of a transphobia panic where they’re going after masculine cis women in a bid to spread their hate. Which was the inevitable endpoint of this evil little movement. Unless you’ve got designated genital inspectors, butch women, muscular women, ugly women, etc are going to be attacked unprovoked for not adhering to some cliched gender stereotype, when some wound up loon goes “hey, are you a guy, you shouldn’t be here?”
TERF brain rot is real. The poor woman is literally a born biological woman from a country where transitioning is outlawed and has a average boxing record for someone at that level. They are just looking for shite to get their followers mad.
Genetically gifted for sure. But if we want to play that game you can point at countless male and female athletes though history who where just built different that gave them a physical edge of others in a particular sport.
The lie is out there.
It’s scary, that’s its impossible to shut it down, too.
Millions of people are talking as if she’s trans, and they won’t be told otherwise.
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Italian fighter did not fancy the fight.
I haven’t seen as fine an example of Mike Tyson’s adage. Italian had a plan until she got punched in the face.
Not buying the trans thing, unless Algeria has liberalized and didn’t tell anyone.
I feel very sorry for the boxer. The commentary around her has been awful and ignorant, regardless of what the rules around participation should be.
I did enjoy someone asking Amy how she’d like to fight Khelif and being told that Amy did fight her… and beat her lol
Well, this is awkward
https://www.iba.sport/news/iba-reaffirms-the-position-and-removal-of-boxers-from-all-events/
The fact is a lot of mediocre men can do well in women’s sports. That she saying Imane Khelif isn’t a great fighter but yet be got to the Olympics only proves the point Khelif is getting their on strength advance and not on skill.
Transphobia was always going to target women who aren’t pretty or feminine enough, and also very often non-white women.
Simple solution, remove gender separation and go for free for all. Gender is a spectrum, so dividing people into binary baskets is transphobic and shouldn’t have a place in our open society.
Wow, in this thread literally EVERYONE agrees, and case closed? Comments are not moderated by any chance? 😀
She was unfortunately banned in the past due to her testosterone levels This is what many have focused on but the out pooring of hate towards her in my opinion is not right.
The whole circus is basically a pissing match between the IBA and IOC.
Just to clarify the IBA was the foremost organisation for amateur and olympic boxing but after years of corruption the olympics officially cut ties with them in 2023 and a new organization called World Boxing has been making moves to try and replace the IBA as the official olympics boxing federation
The IBA which performed the test and disqualified her from the 2023 world championship have kept the results confidential aside from stating it was not a testosterone test (they are claiming now they tested twice once in 2022 but the tournament had ended so they couldnt disqualify her and again in 2023) which has directly fed into the brainrot that set social media off in such a huge way today.
By keeping the test confidential they’ve put the IOC (and by association new boxing organization World Boxing) on the backfoot because they cannot just simply repeat the test or dismiss it because it’s an unknown and continues to be an unknown. Essentially they’ve created this situation where it looks like no vetting of any kind was performed and an absolute shitstorm of social media misinformation.
You know its a pissing match because this is the official 2nd statement from the IBA today
[https://www.iba.sport/news/iba-reaffirms-the-position-and-removal-of-boxers-from-all-events/](https://www.iba.sport/news/iba-reaffirms-the-position-and-removal-of-boxers-from-all-events/)
Look at the second half of the statement
“Further to the decisions made above, and knowingly allowing Imane Khelif to compete, **WORLD BOXING** whose sole purpose of existence is to support the Olympic movement, has equally endorsed and reinforced ineligible athletes to compete in their very own recently announced events.
Alarmingly, the **WORLD BOXING 2024 USA Boxing International Invitational tournament** saw Khelif compete in the finals on the 16^(th) April 2024, with a further outing that took place during the **Eindhoven Box Cup**, supported by **WORLD BOXING** that took place on the 18^(th) May 2024.
We absolutely do not understand why any organisation would put a boxer at risk with what could bring a potential serious injury within the ‘Field of Play’ (FOP). The main role of the referee in the ring is to manage the boxer’s safety at all times. How is this reasonably practicable when a boxer fails to meet the eligibility criteria to compete?
The IBA will never support any boxing bouts between the genders, as the organization puts the safety and well-being of our athletes first. We are protecting our women and their rights to compete in the ring against equal rivals, and we will defend and support them in all instances; their hopes and dreams must never be taken away by organisations unwilling to do the right thing under difficult circumstances.”
It just melts into an attack on World Boxing and the Olympics, this whole situation is just an excuse for them to sling shit at their rivals.
Are they’re just like a lot of people want to see a woman beaten by a man?
This by far the most informative video i have watched on this topic.
[Doctor Explains Imane Khelif vs Angela Carini Olympic Boxing Controversy](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-UODbCWq7OM)
Am I right in thinking that she’s born a woman, identifies as a woman, passed all the tests etc. to confirm that and people are just getting angry because she’s got a more masculine build and is powerful ?
There’s nothing she or the IOC has done wrong if so and the people complaining have no proper basis for doing so.
Get ready for another shitstorm tomorrow, as Taiwanese boxer Lin Yu-Ting will also have the far right loons and gullible idiots out against her.
The IBA also disqualified her for failing some unknown criteria at the same event they did it to Khelif. Worth noting that the IBA is a Russian controlled agency with an obvious agenda against the Olympics after being removed from running boxing at the Olympics due to corruption issues.
Does anyone else feel like right wing conspiracy is at an absolute boiling point? People in all walks of life seem to be so miserable that all they can look for is a minority to spit bile at, even when it’s not true.
Absolute losers.
My hot take is that Melloni paid the fighter to give up the fight and make her statement, so that Melloni can further her right wing agenda in Italy and gain more support.