Essentially, Stubb argues that China is fossilizing Russia’s military by supporting them through increasing trade. When you look at the numbers, China made up 28% of Russia’s total trade last year. The European Union’s share of trade with Russia fell from dropped by 20% this year. From these numbers, Stubb claims that China is serving as a puppeteer for Russia in this conflict and that the ball is in their court for peace.
littleredpinto on
How does that help them financially, when every country in the world that isnt involved is making bank selling weapons to anyone they can that is involved? someone takes out putin and the war is over. Last time I said that on a social media site, I got banned for wishing death on someone. Reality seems to be a problem on social media. War ends when the richest man in the world gets stopped from getting any wealthier. He wont stop himself, you dont become what he is by doing that.
vhu9644 on
I don’t see how China unilaterally ending the war would be at all good for China.
Would the west release trade restrictions from this? Would Russia remain tied to the Chinese economy from this? Would the west change its stance on Taiwanese sovereignty?
Sure China might be able to exert the pressure needed to end the war. But coming out looking like “a leader” or what not by turning the west’s scrutiny towards them, ending a beneficial trade partnership, while receiving no concessions just seems like a terrible deal for them. I might be missing something, but I see no real reason China would even want to exert this kind of pressure on Russia.
zoziw on
First, Xi isn’t going to make that call because he wants Taiwan and this is both a precedent and learning experience for that.
Second, I don’t believe it would work anyways. We live in a Western news bubble but outside of NATO, South Korea, Japan, New Zealand and Australia, the rest of the world is far more ambivalent about this with many taking neutral stances or even favouring Russia. Chinese support helps but I don’t think it is critical and Russia has other countries it can trade with and get supplies from.
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Essentially, Stubb argues that China is fossilizing Russia’s military by supporting them through increasing trade. When you look at the numbers, China made up 28% of Russia’s total trade last year. The European Union’s share of trade with Russia fell from dropped by 20% this year. From these numbers, Stubb claims that China is serving as a puppeteer for Russia in this conflict and that the ball is in their court for peace.
How does that help them financially, when every country in the world that isnt involved is making bank selling weapons to anyone they can that is involved? someone takes out putin and the war is over. Last time I said that on a social media site, I got banned for wishing death on someone. Reality seems to be a problem on social media. War ends when the richest man in the world gets stopped from getting any wealthier. He wont stop himself, you dont become what he is by doing that.
I don’t see how China unilaterally ending the war would be at all good for China.
Would the west release trade restrictions from this? Would Russia remain tied to the Chinese economy from this? Would the west change its stance on Taiwanese sovereignty?
Sure China might be able to exert the pressure needed to end the war. But coming out looking like “a leader” or what not by turning the west’s scrutiny towards them, ending a beneficial trade partnership, while receiving no concessions just seems like a terrible deal for them. I might be missing something, but I see no real reason China would even want to exert this kind of pressure on Russia.
First, Xi isn’t going to make that call because he wants Taiwan and this is both a precedent and learning experience for that.
Second, I don’t believe it would work anyways. We live in a Western news bubble but outside of NATO, South Korea, Japan, New Zealand and Australia, the rest of the world is far more ambivalent about this with many taking neutral stances or even favouring Russia. Chinese support helps but I don’t think it is critical and Russia has other countries it can trade with and get supplies from.