This is a hard issue. In large part, because a right of return does not mean you get to be independent of Azerbaijan. But the government needs to speak about it, negotiate, and offer solutions.
Sir_Arsen on
because it’s pointless to have that discussion with current az government
Dry_Animal_25 on
Dumb article.
RebootedShadowRaider on
It’s pretty obvious that Pashinyan wants the issue to be forgotten because he believes that’s the only way to avoid a war. His policy is that Armenia needs to give Aliyev everything he wants because that’s the only way to get a peace treaty. He’s never going to press the issue because it would provoke Aliyev.
The support that everyone else provides for the abstract right of return is only going to be rhetorical. They aren’t going to support any practical measures that would make it possible. The US Ambassador even said that it’s not realistic for the NK Armenians to return when they don’t feel safe.
It’s also easy to defer support for them to return in some hypothetical future that will very obviously never occur. Azerbaijan will never and, in fact, CAN never do anything that would make Artsakhcis feel safe there ever again.
It’s literally impossible. And nobody will ever support Armenians’ right of return without the consent of Azerbaijan’s fascist government.
dssevag on
I love how our society still puts the responsibility on one person. Armenians gotta love scapegoating. If you think it’s in the hands of Pashinyan, then you better understand how democracy works because it requires the government, civil society, opposition, unions, and many other factors to come together to resolve an issue. I don’t see Armenians on the streets in the diaspora, I don’t see Armenians on the streets of Yerevan, I don’t see Artsakhtsis doing their part, but yes, Pashinyan is the problem.
Not only on the streets, not a single Armenian has the political will or the willingness to sacrifice beyond saying, “We want Artsakh to be independent.” How? I don’t know. Let them figure it out, and if they don’t, I will hate them for it.
And I am not even mentioning the geopolitical factors yet.
rgivens213 on
Even Macron’s administration is more involved with this issue than Pashinyan.
pkghaz on
Do artsakhs want to live in azerbaijan like I don’t understand this conversation
Garegin16 on
Umm. Because the very reason why Armenia sold them out was because Az was pressing them on the corridor issue. Ditching Artsakh was the easiest way that Turkey and Az would stop badgering us. If Armenians stop resorting to convoluted conspiracy theories, lot of things would make sense easily
T-nash on
Didn’t read the article, but based on the title, this was answered a few months ago by him. I remember I read it on david’s posts, Pashinyan said Azerbaijan is countering the right to return of Karabakh to Azerbaijanis returning to Armenia, and that he prefers Armenians to be safer in Armenia than to go that route.
It’s amazing how quickly people forget in the country and in this sub.
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This is a hard issue. In large part, because a right of return does not mean you get to be independent of Azerbaijan. But the government needs to speak about it, negotiate, and offer solutions.
because it’s pointless to have that discussion with current az government
Dumb article.
It’s pretty obvious that Pashinyan wants the issue to be forgotten because he believes that’s the only way to avoid a war. His policy is that Armenia needs to give Aliyev everything he wants because that’s the only way to get a peace treaty. He’s never going to press the issue because it would provoke Aliyev.
The support that everyone else provides for the abstract right of return is only going to be rhetorical. They aren’t going to support any practical measures that would make it possible. The US Ambassador even said that it’s not realistic for the NK Armenians to return when they don’t feel safe.
It’s also easy to defer support for them to return in some hypothetical future that will very obviously never occur. Azerbaijan will never and, in fact, CAN never do anything that would make Artsakhcis feel safe there ever again.
It’s literally impossible. And nobody will ever support Armenians’ right of return without the consent of Azerbaijan’s fascist government.
I love how our society still puts the responsibility on one person. Armenians gotta love scapegoating. If you think it’s in the hands of Pashinyan, then you better understand how democracy works because it requires the government, civil society, opposition, unions, and many other factors to come together to resolve an issue. I don’t see Armenians on the streets in the diaspora, I don’t see Armenians on the streets of Yerevan, I don’t see Artsakhtsis doing their part, but yes, Pashinyan is the problem.
Not only on the streets, not a single Armenian has the political will or the willingness to sacrifice beyond saying, “We want Artsakh to be independent.” How? I don’t know. Let them figure it out, and if they don’t, I will hate them for it.
And I am not even mentioning the geopolitical factors yet.
Even Macron’s administration is more involved with this issue than Pashinyan.
Do artsakhs want to live in azerbaijan like I don’t understand this conversation
Umm. Because the very reason why Armenia sold them out was because Az was pressing them on the corridor issue. Ditching Artsakh was the easiest way that Turkey and Az would stop badgering us. If Armenians stop resorting to convoluted conspiracy theories, lot of things would make sense easily
Didn’t read the article, but based on the title, this was answered a few months ago by him. I remember I read it on david’s posts, Pashinyan said Azerbaijan is countering the right to return of Karabakh to Azerbaijanis returning to Armenia, and that he prefers Armenians to be safer in Armenia than to go that route.
It’s amazing how quickly people forget in the country and in this sub.