What do you think about the normalization of relations process between Armenia and Turkey?

It is obvious that Turkey has learned absolutely nothing and seeks to compromise on nothing. It simply wants Armenia to kneel. There has been no acknowledgment of genocide, let alone an apology. The same rampant anti-Armenian sentiment remains prevalent across Turkish society. And now, with the fall of Artsakh, Turkey gets to use Azerbaijan as its attack dog, snapping at Armenia’s eastern borders as a means of intimidation.

For years, well before the 2020 War and Pashinyan, Armenia consistently advanced the idea of normalization without preconditions, which was repeatedly rejected by Turkey, with added pressure from Azerbaijan. Now, even with the conditions *they* imposed gone as of September last year, they still shift goalposts and make more demands. Even the fucking airspace gets closed off. That is one aspect of their foreign policy and their collective mentality that will never change. It is never enough. There are never compromises.

There is nothing normal about this “normalization”. It is done at gunpoint. It is the victim of a violent crime being told by their attacker to forget what happened lest they want their neck broken too.

We are told it is us who are the problem. Armenia and Armenians, both inside the country and out, need to change. Our memories of death and loss are false. We, the ones whose regional population and heritage was obliterated in the space of a couple of decades, are the terrorists who deserved it. The land on which we barely made a sovereign state for ourselves is stolen. Our monuments are fake or never existed. Our constitution is wrong.

If Turkey truly wanted real, dignified peace with Armenia and open borders, it would acknowledge the genocide it has so poorly covered up (doesn’t really work when you spend half the time glorifying it) – negotiate some sort of financial compensation (just as Germany compensated Israel, just as Americans compensated (albeit meagrely) Native Americans) – agree to form joint working groups to restore the countless Armenian heritage sites in eastern Turkey which have been decimated, most obviously Ani – and then, when the general mentality of citizens on both sides has adjusted to the change, open the border.

But – and I can’t stress this enough – *Each and every Turkish government since Ataturk and the majority of Turks don’t want that.* The government would much rather steamroll Armenia with Azerbaijan and forget Armenia was ever there – and if the geopolitical conditions allowed for it, I have absolutely no doubt that they would, to rapturous applause from the vast majority of Turks.

The resolution of the Armenian question will bring about the normalization of the two countries.

Edit: apparently for some reason the Armenian question is being confused to the **Armenian genocide**. The Armenian question, **asked in the 1800’s, was the question regarding the issue of Armenians living under the Ottoman Empire.**

An issue that was born out of the Zartonk, and later created the Socialist parties who brought the first international cause in the Greater Middle East region. The issue regarding the fate of Armenians.

According to the Turks **The Armenian question ended with the Armenian genocide**. So if you think that the Armenian question is **equal to the Armenian genocide**, you agree with Enver Pashsa that the Armenian question is finalized.

Well, I humbly disagree. The Armenian question today entitles all issues of all Armenians worldwide, from the Artsakh Armenians, to the diaspora Armenians, to the Hamshens, the Islamized, the country of Armenia, and Turkified Armenians.

True normalization will begin when all of those issues are resolved.

https://hy.wikipedia.org/wiki/Հայկական_հարց

Educate yourselves, our history is important.

Never! Until they gives us our land apologize and give us conpensation

I think it’s best we have no relations.

I’m Turkish and here is my opinion.

It looks like both countries have moderate people and extremist people. The extremists are louder and each side sees only the extremists on the other side.

The extremists can shame the moderate people on their side by showing the extremists people on the other side, so extremists on both sides feed each other.

The moderates can’t have strong motivation for normalization because they are attacked from both sides. They’re silenced and overwhelmed very easily.

So I believe normalization will be very difficult, but not impossible.

Recognition, reparations

First off, they can give back everything taken. Second,no giving Armenia the shorter end of the stick.

P.S Erdy is a pos

Needs to happen, but only with Turkey treating this seriously and not through pressure and intimidation and damaging demands.

hmmm …

There will never be peace in the region, while the ideology of Panturkism continues living on.